Full screen mode and the tab key: how to ignore invisible UI elements

Hi there,
When Mozilla is in windowed mode, the tab key moves between the page content, which is great. However, when it reaches the end of the page, it then goes to the tab bar, the address bar, the search bar, something I can't figure out, and only then back to the page content.
When Mozilla is in full screen mode, it does the same thing, even though none of the UI elements (such as the menu bar et al) are actually visible.
So my question is this: is there a way to disable tab from going to the UI elements when FF is in full screen mode? If not, is there a way to disable this entirely?

You have to change the cursor focus.
What I usually do for PDF pages/tabs, is click in the URL/location bar, then F11.<br />
For Flash, if you click on the page outside of the video area/box, F11 should work.

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Full screen mode and the tab key: how to ignore invisible UI elements

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