Full Strength to Low Strength

So we replaced our old wireless router with the WRT110 and when my upstairs computer searches for the available networks to connect to it detects our network at full strength (all bars filled). But then when I connect and enter the password my little windows xp wireless configuration tool tips read connection: low and it drops to two bars. When I switch to using the Linksys Monitor my signal strength is nearly full, but the Link quality is often only one bar though it occasionally jumps up to around 50%. I really don't understand why it's so inconsistent and why I receive conflicting info before and after connection.

Update: Ok, here's my situation now (from the beginning). Here's what's connected: My dad's PC is plugged into the router directly in the basement. The wireless connections are the printer (right next to the PC), the Xbox 360 (1 floor up in the living room), and then my PC 2 floors up in the bedroom (which is using the range booster adapter with the two antennae). Previously, I had the wireless WRT54G router and while it worked ok, my PC in the bedroom had lots of connection problems. Sometimes the signal was "good", but it would sometimes drop to low and then out entirely. So we decided to buy the newer WRT101 with it's "RangePlus" technology as that was supposed to send a stronger signal and we thought that might solve the problem. Originally we wanted to go with one of the wireless N products, but was told by the salesman that it wouldn't work with the Xbox 360. Anyway, the signal itself seems to be stronger... the Xbox connects with full bars, and the "signal strength" reading appears to be strong according to the linksys tool on the upstairs PC. But the "Link" reading is often weak, and the actual performance is worse than with the old router. Websites load much slower, to the point of being unusable quite often. What I've tried so far: 1. I've reinstalled the wireless adapter in my upstairs PC. 2. I've moved the router off the floor to a higher point in the room. 3. I've attempted to change the settings through LELA but recieve an error message about the index it tried to access being out of bounds of the array. 4. I've attempted to change the settings through Windows by entering the ip address into windows explorer but recieve the cannot display webpage error page. 5. Tried the same thing through firefox but just get a blank page and nothing happens. 6. Pinged it through the cmd promt to make sure it's seeing the router ok. 7. Tried "repairing" LELA but the installation failed. Couldn't find a file in a temp folder.
Message Edited by Bradical79 on 07-31-2008 09:45 AM

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Alright, I've scowered the internet and read several other topics, but none of the suggestions presented there helped fix my problem, so I'm throwing this at the support discussions. Thanks in advance for your help/suggestions/advice!
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Ask whoever is in charge of the router to restart it. Many problems are solved that way.
Step 2
Back up all data.
Launch the Keychain Access application in any of the following ways:
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