Functional application design  =  Logical components/Physical components

Hello
In realisation phase I come across terms
Functional application design  =  Logical components
Functional application design  =  Physical components
Can I get some explanation what is the principle difference between a logical and Physical component.
Thanks

It depends entirely on the business requirements. Specifically
- is a lot of concurrent 'history and active record' reporting required?
- what is the ratio of active to deleted records?
- can the [performance, maintenance and development] cost of avoiding deleted records be justified?
- is a 'history' table acceptable instead of inline records?
- what is the "too many rows, we need to delete some" archive strategy?
Once past the analysis stage, into design
- is the shop oriented towards RDBMS as a data manager or a data storage and retrievval system?
- do developers code in a client/middle tier or are they knowledgeable coders in the database tier?
- do you intend to squeeze the value out of Oracle, or do you code everything on your own?
These last 3 questions are really the same thing.

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         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.component.UIXComponentBase.encodeEnd(UIXComponentBase.java:767)
         at javax.faces.component.UIComponent.encodeAll(UIComponent.java:937)
         at javax.faces.component.UIComponent.encodeAll(UIComponent.java:933)
         at javax.faces.component.UIComponent.encodeAll(UIComponent.java:933)
         at com.sun.faces.application.ViewHandlerImpl.doRenderView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:266)
         at com.sun.faces.application.ViewHandlerImpl.renderView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:197)
         at javax.faces.application.ViewHandlerWrapper.renderView(ViewHandlerWrapper.java:189)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.application.ViewHandlerImpl.renderView(ViewHandlerImpl.java:193)
         at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl._renderResponse(LifecycleImpl.java:911)
         at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl._executePhase(LifecycleImpl.java:367)
         at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.lifecycle.LifecycleImpl.render(LifecycleImpl.java:222)
         at javax.faces.webapp.FacesServlet.service(FacesServlet.java:266)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.StubSecurityHelper$ServletServiceAction.run(StubSecurityHelper.java:227)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.StubSecurityHelper.invokeServlet(StubSecurityHelper.java:125)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletStubImpl.execute(ServletStubImpl.java:300)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.TailFilter.doFilter(TailFilter.java:26)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at oracle.adf.model.servlet.ADFBindingFilter.doFilter(ADFBindingFilter.java:205)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.webapp.rich.RegistrationFilter.doFilter(RegistrationFilter.java:106)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.webapp.TrinidadFilterImpl$FilterListChain.doFilter(TrinidadFilterImpl.java:446)
         at oracle.adfinternal.view.faces.activedata.AdsFilter.doFilter(AdsFilter.java:60)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.webapp.TrinidadFilterImpl$FilterListChain.doFilter(TrinidadFilterImpl.java:446)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.webapp.TrinidadFilterImpl._doFilterImpl(TrinidadFilterImpl.java:271)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidadinternal.webapp.TrinidadFilterImpl.doFilter(TrinidadFilterImpl.java:177)
         at org.apache.myfaces.trinidad.webapp.TrinidadFilter.doFilter(TrinidadFilter.java:92)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter$1.run(JpsAbsFilter.java:119)
         at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
         at oracle.security.jps.util.JpsSubject.doAsPrivileged(JpsSubject.java:315)
         at oracle.security.jps.ee.util.JpsPlatformUtil.runJaasMode(JpsPlatformUtil.java:442)
         at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter.runJaasMode(JpsAbsFilter.java:103)
         at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsAbsFilter.doFilter(JpsAbsFilter.java:171)
         at oracle.security.jps.ee.http.JpsFilter.doFilter(JpsFilter.java:71)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at oracle.dms.servlet.DMSServletFilter.doFilter(DMSServletFilter.java:139)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.RequestEventsFilter.doFilter(RequestEventsFilter.java:27)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.FilterChainImpl.doFilter(FilterChainImpl.java:56)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ServletInvocationAction.wrapRun(WebAppServletContext.java:3715)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext$ServletInvocationAction.run(WebAppServletContext.java:3681)
         at weblogic.security.acl.internal.AuthenticatedSubject.doAs(AuthenticatedSubject.java:321)
         at weblogic.security.service.SecurityManager.runAs(SecurityManager.java:120)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.securedExecute(WebAppServletContext.java:2277)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.WebAppServletContext.execute(WebAppServletContext.java:2183)
         at weblogic.servlet.internal.ServletRequestImpl.run(ServletRequestImpl.java:1454)
         at weblogic.work.ExecuteThread.execute(ExecuteThread.java:209)
         at weblogic.work.ExecuteThread.run(ExecuteThread.java:178)
    >
    Now if i remove the tag converter="ClobConverter" then the page renders fine but when i try to submit the values back into the database, then i got the error
    >
    Cannot convert <entered text> of type class java.lang.String to class oracle.jbo.domain.ClobDomain
    >
    My clob converter class is registered in faces-config.xml file and the code for it is also pasted below for reference:
    import javax.faces.component.UIComponent;
    import javax.faces.context.FacesContext;
    import javax.faces.convert.Converter;
    import javax.faces.convert.ConverterException;
    import oracle.jbo.domain.ClobDomain;
    public class ClobConverter implements Converter {
        public ClobConverter() {
        public Object getAsObject(FacesContext context, UIComponent component,
                                  String value) {
            if (context == null || component == null) {
                throw new NullPointerException("FacesContext and UIComponent can not be null");
            if (value == null) {
                return null;
            try {
                return new ClobDomain(value);
            } catch (Exception ex) {
                final String message =
                    String.format("Unable to convert boolean value \"%s\" into a oracle.jbo.domain.Number",
                                  value);
                throw new ConverterException(message, ex);
        public String getAsString(FacesContext context, UIComponent component,
                                  Object value) {
            if (context == null || component == null) {
                throw new NullPointerException("FacesContext and UIComponent can not be null");
            return value.toString();
    }

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