Fund Center derivation based on PM order
Hi all,
Our requirement is that Fund Center should be derived from the cost center field (location tab) in the PM order. I am using function module FMDT_READ_MD_ORDER to achieve the result. I am getting the result but it is disturbing my process orders creation as there is no cost center field in process order master
I want to make a condition based on PM order type. what is the best option. Can i use the following
First derivation rule . update Order Type to USERTEMP1
Second derivation rule: call FMDT_READ_MD_ORDER and put a condition to check USERTEMP1 is PM order types
Please advise. Will it affect any other area
Lincy
Hi,
Yes, the way you described would be most common practice to deal with this requirement. You read the relevant data through built-in function module (or user-exit) and put the value in temporarily field. Then, in the next rule you base FM derivation on that field.
Regards,
Eli
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