Funded Program Hierarchy

Hi Gurus,
My requirement is to extract the 'Funded Program Hierarchy'.
I could not find the standard Data source available. I checked the Business content, specifically at SAP R/3->PSM->PSM_FM->PSM_FM_IO where Fund, Fund Center, Functional area etc are available.
I could not find any related post in this forum. Some related post stated that in R/3 ABAP report to upload to the flat file and from there loading into the BW...
Is that the only solution?
Appreciate your inputs.
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Peesu.

Hi,
If you want to extract data from Public Sector industrial solution (PSM-FM) then please look at:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/bf/17b63c71f41d5ce10000000a114084/frameset.htm
In case of Financials (FI-FM) see here:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/71/d3143cb1b8be00e10000000a114084/frameset.htm
Best regards,
Eugene

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You must use the following master data elements in Funds Management:
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[http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/f0/ca3480260211d28a430000e829fbbd/content.htm]
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Hi Yashar, I think there is a concept's misunderstanding, activating the funded program, does not mean that it will be active in other components and there is not any function module to read it from any master data.
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Hello All,
I am facing an issue when I try to activate the funded program as an account assignment element in BCS. The path is IMG>Public Sector Management>Funds Management Government>Budget Control System (BCS)>Budgeting>Basic SettingsUse of Master Data>Activate Account Assignment Elements in Budget Control System
The error is as below
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Diagnosis
In FM area 1000 the status of funded program is set to "mandatory" or "optional" . The funded program is not active in this FM area and should not be used for budgeting.
Procedure
If you want to use the funded program for budgeting in this FM area, you should first activate it for FM posting.
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Please sugges what needs to be configured in order to activate funded program in SAP..
Reponse is high appreciated.
Best Regards
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Edited by: Abishay Solomon on Dec 13, 2009 12:01 PM

Hi
Log this issue with following Forum:
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Message no. FMCU034
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Please sugges what needs to be configured in order to activate funded program in SAP..
Reponse is high appreciated.
Best Regards
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Hi Eli,
Thank you for your input.
But the issue is, I want to use Funded program as account assignment element in BCS. when I try to change the status from Not Used to Optional in IMG > Public Sector Management > Funds Management Government > Budget Control System (BCS) > Budgeting > Basic Settings > Use of Master DataUse of Master Data > Activate Account Assignment Elements in Budget Control System the below error is occures.
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Message no. FMCU034
Diagnosis
In FM area 1000 the status of funded program is set to "mandatory" or "optional" . The funded program is not active in this FM area and should not be used for budgeting.
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If you want to use the funded program for budgeting in this FM area, you should first activate it for FM posting.
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