Funds Mangement - Superior Fund Center ?

Hi
What is the use of superior fund center, When do we have to use it. I have seen in some of the treads that budget of superior fund center exceeded etc ( coudnt understand why it happens). In cost center hierarchy each node is a cost center group. In this case each node is going to be superior fund center. In what way these hierarchy mechanisms are different and why. Please clarify i am in the process of finializing master data, wondering to consider a superior fund center or not.
Thanks in Advance
Chris

Thank you Eli -
Can't i derive a budget address if it is not a superior fund center.
When you say reporting - is it like this - When i run for a superior fund center, does it give me a report considering the subordinate fund center's budget and commit /actuals ?
Please bear the inconvenience, I wish to test before posting a question but I am in the decision making stage to implement all these.
Kind regards
Chris

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