Future of BSP

hi,
with SAP introducing WEB dynpro, what is the future of BSP. Will BSP die in the near future or is it still a good choice for customer to implement web applications ?
Elko

I think that the role that BSP plays will change slightly, but I certainly don't see it dying.
First of WDA is only available in NetWeaver04S and higher. Looking at the vast majority of SAP solutions out there, many of them for years to come will only be on releases lower than that. Talking to other customers that have made the move to ECC 5.0 or R/3 enterprise in the last year or two - many don't expect another major upgrade for 5-8 years. For these customers BSP is there already and a perfectly fine tool to use.
Second - WDA and BSP have some technical differences that set them appart. WDA is stateful only. BSP is stateful or stateless. BSP allows pixel perfect rendering and the inclusion of any frontend rendering technology you want to code (custom HTML, JavaScript, ActiveX controls, AJAX, Flash, etc). WDA on the other hand is a closed rendering system. You have no access to the low level rendering - nor can you create your own UI elements (to be fare - you can create composit elements as WD components - an example being the SAP implementation of ALV Grid in WD - just not new elemental UI objects). This is done to obscure the client delivery mechanism and future proof the technology (WebDynpro can be deployed to the browser or to a Smart client already - with very different rendering technologies - yet your code remains the same). This approach is great for creating internal facing business transactions - but isn't necessarily flexible enough for everthing. Internet facing applications which need greater rendering customization and statelessness would still be better served as BSP.

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Hi expert,
Can any one tell exactly that what is future of BSP ? Currently in which solution's of SAP it is being used . Some people says that it is outdated technology and it will be replace by WD ABAP or WD JAVA.
Is it True ?
Thanks,
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Hi,
this topic has been discusted several times.
BSP and WebDynpro can live together very good. There are some things, that are not possible in WebDynpro.
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3. Which scenarios, BSP should be used and which scenarios Webdynpro is used.
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Hi all,
i have some questions about all this BSP/Web-Dynpro stuff. We have an application (for health care written in Visual Studio) out there at our customers. Some of these customers are using SAP as their backend system. So we've writte some backend functionality (a cash processing, additional reports, a special invoice system etc.etc.) in Abap and Abap-Objects. Actually we are planing a new release for this backend stuff which is using the normal SAP Gui.
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If you don't mind, I am going to terminate discussion of Web Dynpro ABAP here. It is not that I want to, but we are in a difficult position with this development, and can not really discuss it too much.
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(*) BSP is available since WebAS 610 (which is now nearly at the end of its lifetime). WebAS 620 is the main platform out there, with NW04 (WebAS 640) now shipping, and the next product is inevitably coming. If you keep in mind that SAP supports each release at least 7 years, and we will be shipping BSP in an upcoming release, you can see that with BSP you are not going to left stranded for many years to come.
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(*) Web Dynpro ABAP: it will become a very nice product as well. We should know :). But, it will definitely not ship on NW04 platform. Which unfortunately means the next great NW shipment (both naming and date is not available).
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BSP's

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Till now I never used BSP's in my developments, I can say I did not get chance to work on BSP's.
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Hi,
You can check this help on BSPs
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/e9/bb153aab4a0c0ee10000000a114084/frameset.htm
and the tutorial
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/c8/101c3a1cf1c54be10000000a114084/frameset.htm
and this discussions BSP vs Web Dynpro
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Re: future

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/people/thomas.jung3/blog/2004/09/02/creating-a-bsp-extension-for-downloading-a-table
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Bsp Vs Webdynpro ABAP

Hi All,
I am new to the concepts of BSP and ABAP web dynpro,Can some body please guide me on what is the difference between BSP and ABAP web dynpro.
Thanks in Advance.

Hi Varun,
think of WebDynpro as a replacement UI technology for SAPGUI. It is designed to support interactive transactions (i.e. multi-screen) with a standard look and feel for professional users.
BSP is designed to support simple web-style transactions where the user has a fairly simple interaction with the page and you can tailor the user experience to look any way you like.
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ii. There is low possibilty of customization in web dynrpo, i.e We need to use only the available color or style themes available..It is not easy to have user defined color themes but in BSP we can have our own color themes at ease.. and
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and also check
What is difference between WebDynpro and BSP?
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Bhavana

How to Assiging BSP application in workflow

Hi, Experts..
I have developed an bsp application ,i want it to assign in workflow..
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Hi,
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Try if you can figure it out with these transactions. Good luck!
Kind regards,
Joost van Poppel

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/people/brian.mckellar/blog/2003/10/23/bsp-trouble-shooting-frequently-asked-short-questions
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Thanks

Since it is related to both ITS and BSP i thought i can post it in both. and also i didnt get answers for the queries..... for a long time. Anyhow i will take your suggestion for my future query.
i hv done using iframe to call my ITS application.
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