FX5200 causing system instability? (Fixed with new PSU)

The background: I've been battling this one for three weeks now. I've had a new system for a couple of months, prebuild barebones with specs noted in signature. About 3 weeks ago I started having random crashes, lockups, bluescreens with win98Se. This was after installing an ATI tv tuner card, although the system was stable for a week after that. I also started playing 3d games more, and hadn't done this before - I mention this because it may have been heat related and 3d causes the temp to rise - true?. After I started having random crashes, I tried updating the video drivers to MSI 52.16, thinking that may help. The install seemed to go ok, although when trying to sync without powerstrip (can go to 60Hz with Nvidia utility), that didn't work. Shortly after that, the system really started locking up, with BSOD's and crashes and became so unstable I couldn't even bring up Windows (kept getting protection error).
Other factors: The MSI FX5200 card is the cheaper version with the heatsink, not the fan. I also have 2 hard drives hooked in, one of which was having issues. I unplugged that once the trouble started. The system is also probably too close to a heat vent, which may have contributed to the issue.
Anyway, the troubleshooting: I took out all non-essential cards and got down to a bare-bones system. Reinstalled the OS after reformatting the hard drive - still flaky. Tried WinME - still flaky. Swapped out memory - still flaky. Put in different video card (older MSI MX440), and system is now stable.
My question: Is my FX5200 video card fried for sure? I don't want to try it in a different system, in case it starts flaking out there, causing damage and PITA recovery on that system. Or could the video card be OK, and I just somehow weakened the PSU, causing it to not be able to handle even a barebones system?
Please advise. Mercy please, I'm a newbie at hardware...

I picked up a new power supply, but it may not be big enough - specs are pretty similar to current one. It's an Antec SmartPower 400W: +5v@38A, +3.3v@28A, +12v@18A. 5&3.3v combined=240W, plus 12v=380W. I can sure try it, but if you think I should get one with more power, I'd rather look into getting the Antec 430 or equivalent instead. Let me know. Ironically, this was the only part of the system I didn't research fully before the build. I now see the error of my ways...
I'm leaning away from the video card as the problem, as things have started flaking out again, even though I still have in the MSI Gf2 440 card along with the barebones config. (So, it's happened with 2 different cards.) I fired up the system last night, and Windows didn't even startup completely before it locked up. I wonder, could this be entirely heat related? It was a cold night and the heat was blasting and the front of the case is unfortunately only 1 foot away. I am waiting for extension cords for vga, coming this Friday, so I can move the unit across the room.
Regarding your driver question, I haven't even loaded the vga drivers, just the mobo ones. So, it's running 16 color @ 640x480.
I did look at the heatsink on the 5200 card as you suggested. It doesn't look great in terms of contact - looks like it's separated from the board more than what I remember when I first installed it. I haven't taken it off to look closer, and I'm (obviously) no expert on this and unsure what to look for. Since it's less likely that it's the video card, and I'm not really sure what I'm doing anyway, I'll probably hold off on this path until after PSU swapout/testing.
I'm really learning a lot, and I thank you very much for your time!

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To prevent this phenomenon occurs, you download and run the System Update Readiness Tool from the following KB.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/947821
By performing the system update Preparation tool registry that is described in Section Symptoms are repaired.
If the repair is made, starting with log Recreated missing key as the following WinDir% \ Logs \ CBS \ CheckSUR.log file% is recorded.
Recreated missing key:? Wcm :/ / Microsoft-Windows-CoreOS ... \ metadata \ elements \ ComputerName
In addition, regardless of the presence or absence of entry damaged Microsoft-Windows-CoreOS, you can set the value of the ComputerName key in this tool. For this reason, the following log is recorded in the CheckSUR.log.
Recreated value: @ _type.
Recreated value: @ dataOnly.
Recreated value: @ default.
Recreated value: @ description.
Recreated value: @ displayName.
Recreated value: @ handler.
Recreated value: @ legacyName.
Recreated value: @ legacyType.
Recreated value: @ migrate.
Recreated value: @ scope.
Recreated value: @ xsd: type.
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December 11, 2013 - Revision: - Last Review: 2901584: 4.0 Document Number
This document that was written about products for.
• Windows Vista Business
• Windows Vista Business 64-bit edition
• Windows Vista Enterprise
• Windows Vista Enterprise 64-bit edition
• Windows Vista Home Basic
• Windows Vista Home Basic 64-bit edition
• Windows Vista Home Premium
• Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit edition
• Windows Vista Starter
• Windows Vista Ultimate
• Windows Vista Ultimate 64-bit edition
• Windows Server 2008 Datacenter
• Windows Server 2008 Datacenter without Hyper-V
• Windows Server 2008 Enterprise
• Windows Server 2008 Enterprise without Hyper-V
• Windows Server 2008 for Itanium-Based Systems
• Windows Server 2008 Foundation
• Windows Server 2008 Standard
• Windows Server 2008 Standard without Hyper-V
• Windows Web Server 2008
• Windows HPC Server 2008
• Windows Essential Business Server 2008
We are having the issue on hundreds of systems and I am rolling out the readiness tool mentioned above to prevent other systems from being affected. In the mean time I have stopped deploying MS13-098 and am hoping Microsoft will go ahead and let all
of their customers know about the problem instead of just one country. Hopefully the original bulletin will be updated with this known issue.

PPoj,
Apple has offered replacement or pro-rated refunds in the US as a settlement of a class action lawsuit, not because of pride in their design-centric approach to their products. If you seek a similar replacement/refund program in India, then the odds are pretty good that you’d need a similar legal approach with which to convince Apple to offer a similar program there. If you’re unwilling to wait for such an event, then you can purchase a replacement power cable now, and hope for a pro-rated refund at some point in the future.

SwithcHosts was installed, not understandable, uninstalled, causing problems. FF opens with New tab, not Home Page

That's SwitchHosts. Uninstalled it, removed from profile, but still FF starts with New tab and not Home Page. Is there a line in about:config that needs changing???

That didn't work. But, I did remember to do a System Restore, and that seems to have fixed it. SwitchHosts is no friend of mine. Even the MVP program has limits. I wish these programs did not try to take over my computer and they should have good uninstall features.
Thanks for the reply.
Walt

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