FX5900Nu: msi x gainward x Bios and why ppl flash their cards.

I have a gainward fx5900 1100 400/700 2.8ns 128 and I cut off some board tracks testing water cooling fittings (more like drunk friend nests board on top of cutting tools).
Anyway, it's the simplest fx5900Nu model from gainward.
I had to finish the tests with the cooler, so I went out and bought a "MSI SUPERIOR PRODUCT fx5900sp vdt256".
I also have an old MSIti4600 4x and its a totally awsome board, so I though the SP would be great too. It's also has similar clock/mem specs 2.8 as the gainward, exept for the memory size. Before bothering to dismantle the huge cooler from the Msi I ran tests so I could compare both boards "stock cooled".
I tested both with 56.55 and these are my "results":
With the gainward I was able to IN AN EASY WAY to find ZILLIONS OF BIOS FILES, and they are nice ppl too, they write a little bat file so all u have to do to flash the bios is SIMPLY type : flash -> enter and it's done . If you try to flash to a diferent model they prompt you to confirm..DoNe...u dont have to D.O.S. your way into Nvflash wich is also a dread to less experienced users. (I wont even mention my feelings about Msi's "live update" feature)
Boot a floppy, type "flash", Boot.
30 seconds later I'm back into windows with the new bios.
I flashed 2 5950U , 2 5900U and FIVE 5900Nu bios files thus finding the best set for my card (one of the 5 5900nu testeds) increasing the card's performance at least 20~30% default AND overclocked.
Getting scores like 55k Aniso off/50k Aniso on Aquamark, 6,8k Fm2k3 , 19k 3dm2001se...etc just from changing bios was great, that stock cooled with Agp4x on a 533 p4 3.06 @ 3.6 512 + rambus 1250mhz almost 2 year old setup.
Similar performance with temperature drops were obtained using both 5950 roms, but overall 2 of the bios writen for Nu's were absolutely perfect.
I could EASILY take it from the original 400/700 to 510/970 benching @ 507/960 without artifacts and rock solid, even with the crappy stock aluminum cooler (wich is the reason for the watercooler, that board DESERVES a Watercooling kit.).
Msi Superior Product:
Now I just finished "testing" the Msi's SP :
- Could not raise the memory past 820 without artifacts and didn't even test that for too long.
- The core would quit @ 470~480, even with the bios flashed @ 5950 and now i can't even use that bios becose the memory (go back to default bug) resets to 950 and doesn't even hold long enough to be downed.
- The scores (@480/850) were ludicrous like 49k in aquamark no Aniso and 42k aniso on...and no, it wasn't performance-drop-for-being-too-overclocked.
I didn't even bothered runing other tests, doom3alpha had terrible locks and bugs (runs fine on the gainward @ maxfps 1024 going to 30 on the heaviest parts against 17 on the Msi)
- Why is it SO HARD to find Bios for Msi's Vga's????...my guess being becose they (Msi) simply don't make them...they do one or 2 (most likelly 1), and that's it. No further work is done to improve boards performance even though EVERY Nvidia enthusiast aways expect driver AND bios optimizations and improvements FREQUENTLY, and I think it's a real shame...Msi is falling behind while other companies are employing more resources into fine tunning and improving their current range of cards.
The reason of this post is that, as it never crossed my mind it would be hard to find Msi bios files, I never backed the original one and I need it urgently so I can flash the right bios for the Fx5900VTD256 and return the card with it's original features.
After reading about 20 posts begging for various bios (the ones asking for my model had no answers) and pll saying flat out " Why you wanna change your bios?? It's meaningless, not needed etc.." I decided to post these words on my experience on flashing bios, especially after the Dx9 paranoia and I mean..we all flash mobo's bios frequently...
Good bios files and good drivers are a card's soul, I do not care for extra Cd's and stuff I won't even take out off the box.
I care about good performance and hard working on tunning/feedback/updating and I aways thought since Msi had resources to give heaps of cd freebies (and I apreciate that too) it was becose it had the "tunning/updating" part covered.
I also would like to sugest that the all Bios files avaiable for all boards should be made publically avaiable, even if it hurts Msi's image for having less files than other manufactures. As consumers/enthusiasts we deserve to have easy access to all that can be used to improve our cards.
I apologise for my bad english, I'm from Brazil and I hope my post is constructive and sparks an effort on Msi towards improvement on the issues mentioned.
Other interesting fact I'd like to mention is thar Msi's SP has a HUGE cooling solution, on both sides, 1 fan each side for the aditional memory while Gainward's collers and sinks are basically aluminium "full cheapo mode" on, so I find it amazing that the Gainward card is so superior in performance.
So if some kind soul could post the Bios file for the FX5900SP VTD256 I'd aprecciate very much, I couldn't find it anywere in the web and tried the forum search too, but requests for the file haven't been answered and I really need this file so I can return the card as soon as possible or if there is more than one bios for this board I'd like to see if there is significant improvement. Both ones I tested (original and 5950) are plain very slow.
regards
Dn-Rio, Brasil

hi,
You may be able to get what you need at this site http://www.mvktech.net, hope you find what you need.

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Yesterday I finally tried to down-flash from 4.39 to 4.20 with MSIHQ. Risk taken Happily it was success!
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>>Please read and comply with the Forum Rules.<<
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I did't do that. I don't want to boot from the RAID. I want to boot from a single S-ATA Drive attached to ICH8. I just want to have the RAID available in Windows as second drive.
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Screenshots:

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Could you please fully unlock my BIOS and add all the extra stuff you have?
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received it
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