FX5900XT vs RX9800Pro

Hi All
Question.
What video board may I buy for the same price 199 euro + VAT.
MSI FX 5900 XT or MSI RX9800 Pro.
Now I have Ti4200 8x 64. ~ 12100 2k1 ( 300/600 )
I like N-Vidia
Please answer me
Regards
Mike

I agree that the Ti4200 is a great card. In fact, it's good enough that I'm going to make a recommendation that I don't usually make. Sit tight until November when the 6600 GT bridged to AGP may be released. I've noticed that the 6600 256mb PCX cards are selling for sub-$200. If they can do that with the AGP version, that would be the way to go.
Again, I normally wouldn't recommend waiting for some down the road technology because there's always something better around the corner. But in this case, the Ti4200 really is a dandy little card (in fact it often times benchmarks better than all the 5x00 Geforce cards save for the 5900). And if it were me, I'd hang on to it for 2 more months and spend my money on the 6600 when it comes out in AGP.
I have no idea how the 9800 compares to the 6600. Obviously, if it outperforms it, then don't wait and get the 9800 now
Good luck

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ive made a post about this already but it went un answered
this may be a problem with my computer and not the card
i had my fx5200 hooked up and was playing bf1942 and when i played something weird would happen
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unclekreepy,
In all honesty, you might need to consider the power supply in your rig,
it might not be adequate, this is one of the major components that’s
overlooked by many builders, home and or professional, when upgrading
there hardware!
If the PSU is inadequate you will experience, lockups, shutdowns, sudden
or random reboots, BSOD, and numerous other instability issues!
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I would borrow a friend’s higher watt PSU to see if that makes a difference!
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Always buy a quality named brand PSU like a Antec, Enermax, Fortron,
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