FYI: NI Releases Guitar Rig 2 Software Edition

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GUITAR RIG 2 SOFTWARE EDITION now available!
The multi-award winning GUITAR RIG 2 SOFTWARE EDITION is now available at authorised dealers and in the NI Online Shop. Without the RIG KONTROL hardware but with the full function range, GUITAR RIG 2 SOFTWARE EDITION is perfect for producers and sound designers. Containing the GUITAR RIG 2.2 update, this version is also Intel Mac compatible as well as including new
features and improved graphics.
Creating authentic guitar and bass sounds in the studio has never been more affordable. GUITAR RIG 2 Software Edition supplies an enormous selection of perfectly emulated amps, cabinets, mics and effects in a single exceptional package. Honoured by the international industry press, GUITAR RIG has already received over 20 prestigious awards and is unmatched in its audio quality and versatility.
GUITAR RIG 2 Software Edition is identical to the original version in its range of functions, with the sole exception of the foot controller.
Guitar and bass sounds for the studio
GUITAR RIG 2 Software Edition will be available from the middle of November for the recommended retail price of €299 / $339 at your local reseller or from the NI Online Shop.
http://www.native-instruments.com/index.php?id=guitarrig2swe_us

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