FYI: No Sleep during Time Machine initial backup

Just an FYI - I noticed that during the first Time Machine full backup, the computer does not go to sleep.
I would also assume that if you computer is asleep, it will not wake for each hourly backup.

Hi, and welcome to the forums.
You need to know that backing-up that way is "iffy" and +*not supported by Apple.+* See Using Time Machine with an Airport Extreme Air Disk (or use the link in *User Tips* at the top of this forum).
Kernel panics are usually caused by hardware problems, but can be software.
Disconnect all peripherals, except keyboard and mouse. Reconnect one at a time to see if you can find the culprit.
If that's no help, run the Apple Hardware Test: http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1509
And perhaps a heavy-duty memory test, such as the free Rember: http://www.kelleycomputing.com/
More kernel panic info:
Apple Support - About kernel panic messages
Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
The X Lab - Resolving Kernel Panics
Apple Developer - Technical Note TN2063: Understanding and Debugging Kernel Panics
Tutorial: Avoiding and eliminating Kernel panics
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If you still want to back up via the Airport, the first backup will be much faster if you connect via Ethernet.

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    Mac OS X Kernel Panic FAQ
    The X Lab - Resolving Kernel Panics
    Apple Developer - Technical Note TN2063: Understanding and Debugging Kernel Panics
    Tutorial: Avoiding and eliminating Kernel panics
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    !http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/4988/picture2gih.png!
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    Dec 18 13:23:05 imac com.apple.backupd[5781]: Waiting for index to be ready (100)
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    Ends.. This seems to work like it should.
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    Dec 18 13:31:49 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: Backing up to: /Volumes/DeLorean/Backups.backupdb
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    Dec 18 13:31:49 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: Finished scan
    Dec 18 13:31:51 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: 884.92 GB required (including padding), 341.39 GB available
    Dec 18 13:31:51 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: No expired backups exist - deleting oldest backups to make room
    Dec 18 13:31:52 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: Deleted backup /Volumes/DeLorean/Backups.backupdb/imac/2011-12-18-131415 containing 8.7 MB; 341.40 GB now available, 884.92 GB required
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    Dec 18 13:35:03 imac com.apple.backupd[6025]: Backup canceled.
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    - Why time machine thinks that it needs to do a 800GB worth of new backup. Those data have not changed a bit (they are movies).
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    ECONOMAN wrote:
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