G/L Account Determination - meaning of accounts

Hi!
I have several questions regarding the account types in the G/L account determination.
I do not know for which transactions the following accounts will be used:
Sales
-) Overpaying/Underpaying Account
-) Down Payment Receivable (I've simulated various Down Payment transactions but the system always used the Down Payment Clearing Account and the Down Payment Interim Account)
-) Open Depts
-) Down Payment Tax Offset Account (Is it a separate tax account for Down Payments - If so It can be theoretically the same account that will be used for output taxes on conventional A/R invoices?)
Purchasing
-) Assets Account
General
-) Automatic Reconciliation Diff.
-) Ex rate on def tax account
Regarding the Inventory accounts I have some lack of understanding in general. I think it is important to separate between a drop ship and a warehouse procurement process?! If I buy goods and post the quantities on my warehouse by issuing a Goods Receipt P/O I do not understand the journal entries in the background.
I would be please if someone can help me out by explaining me the aim of the above listed types of account.
Thank you and best regards

I've closed my old thread.
I put all this questions into this one thread as I did not want to spam the forum with 8 separate threads and all questions are concerning the G/L Account determination. Anyhow I will re-post my questions regarding the procurement process and the down payment issue
Joseph, thank you for this link but frankly speaking the most answers from that pages are insufficient for me as it is not explained in detail. For example I do not understand how comes to an Automatic reconciliation difference.
Thank you and best regards
Greg

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Can we do account determination with out account keys? and explains how?

Hi Gopal,
Account determination is an FI interface with other modules inorder to determine the right G/L accounts for posting.
And account keys act as a bridge for posting the amounts between FI and other functional applications which serves as the basic purpose of any business such as revenues, discounts, stock values etc.
Therefore if you dont consider account keys while configuring account determination...........no postings will be made in to G/L accounts. then your entire business would go for a toss.
<b>Reward if helps</b>
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Dear gurus
I’d like to get advice about account determination for COGS account.
I have requirement to determine COGS account based on “Customer”.
If the customer is outside the group, we want to charge to
“Sales: Third-party” and “COGS: Third-party” accounts.
And if the customer is in the group, we want to charge to
“Sales: Intercompan” and “COGS: Intercompany” account.
However, since COGS account is determined from Valuation class in
Material master (OBYC), it cannot be determined from “Customer”.
(Because same material can be sold to third-party and intercompany too)
Do you know any solution for it?
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The only other way I could think of is to do an enhancement at the time of delivery to read the customer and substitute the GL Account for COGS based on Customer recon Account.
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I would really appreciate any help on this . The scenario is .
We changed the account assignment group of maetrial to 01 just 2 days back.
We have old open sales order line up for this particular material . When I am trying to Bill these open orders , the system is not recognizing the account assignment grp change which happened 2 days back ,because of which I am getting a A/C determination error .
This is a I/C order and we have PO linked to it. I am suggesting to back out everything (Do Invoice reversal,MIGO cancellation,PO cancellation , then cancel invoice ,delivery and sales order ) so that we can create a new cycle and the system will recognize the account assignment grp change and determines the G/L whwn it comes to acounting .
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Dear Sridhar
First of all, I dont think, you will be able to change the Account Assignment Group of a material in sale order if any subsequent document is generated bcoz the said field will become uneditable. Moreover, via MASS, this is not possible as the field name of Account Assignment Group for material (KTGRM) is not available in MASS.
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Farhan
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Dear forum,
I am creating a billing document from a service contract.
When I create my billing document I receive an error message saying "Account determination error".
I am checking my account determination analysis for revenue accounts in the billing document (Environment->Acct.Determination analysis->Revenue accounts).
For standard condition type DIFF I receive a message 120 saying "G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK" which is fine.
But I dont get any message 215 (which should be returned under the row of message 120), and it should say "G/L account in document: 0000578109".
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30     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
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Edited by: Ola Törnblom on Dec 22, 2008 3:17 PM

Hi,
VKOA - check. Both KOFK and KOFI using same conditions with same G/L account.
FS00 - check. Account exist in company code.
This is the log in accounts revenue when everything is OK (EXAMPLE 1):
Condition      Message     Description
DIFF     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFI
DIFF     215     G/L account in document: 0000578109
Access     Message     Description
10     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
20     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
30     123     Access KOFI not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFI
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Condition Message     Description
DIFF     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
Access     Message     Description
10     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
20     121     No G/L account found in Account determination type KOFK
30     123     Access KOFK not carried out (initialized field)
40     120     G/L account 0000578109 determined from Account determination type KOFK
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But what I dont understand is why we dont get any message 215 as in EXAMPLE 1.
And we get the error message "Account determination error" in EXAMPLE 2.
Thanks,
Ola
Edited by: Ola Törnblom on Dec 22, 2008 4:58 PM

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Use
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