G3 mini-tower beige powerpc. monitor signal out of range w/ upgrade to OSX

Hi. I have a beige G3 minitower with an 80 gig hd, 448 mb ram, ATY Mach 64 3DUPro 6mb vram pci. Monitor is a NEC Multisync FE770. I have an 8 gig partition on which I successfully installed OSX10.2.08, and another partition has 9.2.2.
I can boot in 9.2 no problem, but when I boot up in 10.2, I get a red bordered box on a black screen that says "Signal frequency is out of range. FH>80 OKHZ. FV>75OHZ. Please change signal timing."Monitor preferences have been reset to different frequencies, but it still persists.
I have read for hours on this forum, and have tried resetting pram via keyboard, only to get the "?" start-up screen. I was able to boot in OS9 to get to utilities to re-choose the startup disc. But nothing changed, still got the out of range box. I also tried the Mac solution posted here, "Blue or Black screen after updating" but that did nothing. Anyhow, I know you suggested replacing the battery, but why would it work in OS9 if the battery is the problem? Can anyone suggest any fix to this? I have been trying to get this computer updated for my 10 year old son, and have put way too much time into it:) Best,JER

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Hi. I have a beige G3 minitower with an 80 gig hd, 448 mb ram, ATY Mach 64 3DUPro 6mb vram pci. Monitor is a NEC Multisync FE770. I have an 8 gig partition on which I successfully installed OSX10.2.08, and another partition has 9.2.2.
I can boot in 9.2 no problem, but when I boot up in 10.2, I get a red bordered box on a black screen that says "Signal frequency is out of range. FH>80 OKHZ. FV>75OHZ. Please change signal timing."Monitor preferences have been reset to different frequencies, but it still persists.
I have read for hours on this forum, and have tried resetting pram via keyboard, only to get the "?" start-up screen. I was able to boot in OS9 to get to utilities to re-choose the startup disc. But nothing changed, still got the out of range box. I also tried the Mac solution posted here, "Blue or Black screen after updating" but that did nothing. Anyhow, I know you suggested replacing the battery, but why would it work in OS9 if the battery is the problem? Can anyone suggest any fix to this? I have been trying to get this computer updated for my 10 year old son, and have put way too much time into it:) Best,JER
Hi, I am updating this original post to say that I ordered and installed a new battery into my G3, and I still am getting the "out of range" warning on my monitor at startup. Can anyone offer a solution? It only happens when I boot in OSX, and never happened in system 9. The only additional info I can offer is that I installed 10.2 with the grey install discs from an older IMAC. Someone on the forum mentioned that the grey install discs would only work for the same machine, though I was able to do a clean install. Does a disc meant for an imac install a system geared to that model? Could it be a reason for the monitor issue? I am grasping at straws. Any additional help is welcome. Best,JER
Hey, I just borrowed a retail disc of OSX 10.2, and went through a clean install, only to get the SAME out of frequency message on start-up. So that eliminates that. New pram battery also done. Any other ideas? If the monitor is generating the message, and nec is no help, what next? Can the NEC adaptor work for another crt monitor? I have a PC computer with a monitor the same size. I guess I'll check to see. Best,JER
What is happening is that the physical pixel characteristics of your monitor don't match the resolution that your Mac is calling for (this is one area that Windoze's display handling routines differ on PC; windoze will "cut off" or black out portions of the display to make it fit.)
I just had this happen yesterday with an oddly-shaped LCD monitor that is slightly squarish. Zapping the Mac's PRAM did no good because it defaults to 800 X 600, which the monitor was geometrically unable to achieve. The resolution had to be set to 640 X 480 (or 1280 x 960 or other common denominator.)
The reason OS 9 can display it is because a compatible resolution is stored in the prefs, while OS X does not contain it.
I solved my problem by booting from a secondary disk and replacing the display pref with a known-good one. Since you can't swap prefs between 9 and X, you could boot with a different monitor, set the resolution to a compatible setting, then hook up the previous monitor.

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