G4 AGP running OSX doesn't boot from original OS 9.0 CD

I need to re-install OS9.0.4 on my g4 using the original CD. i cant open software install or restore, because Classic is not there. I cant boot from the CD's either. I tried pressing c on boot, setting the boot disk in system preferences - the blue folder blink with the question mark for a few seconds, before resuming boot into OSX - and pressing alt/option on boot - the os9 cd is not recognized as a boot cd. The strange thing is that it used to boot from the cd!, before i moved on to osx. I reformatted my second internal disk to make sure the oS9 drivers were installed and still nothing...
Any tips?
thanks

Hi, Oogoo -
I don't know if it is a universal result, but many folk have posted that their machine will no longer boot to its original disks and OS version after updating the machine's firmware in preparation for installing OSX. It has also been reported as occuring after installing later versions of OSX, such as 10.4.x.
Machines that exhibit that issue seem to be able to boot to a retail (white label, gold 9) OS 9.1 or OS 9.2.1 Install CD, as appropriate for the machine. Your G4 (AGP) should be able to use either of those, provided the target hard drive does have OS 9 drivers installed.
Retail OS 9.2.1 Install CDs can still be obtained from Apple, but only by phone; all versions retail OS 9 Install CDs can also be obtained from sites like this one -
http://store.yahoo.com/hardcoremac/index.html

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