G4 and BFD drums

I am currently running ProTools LE 7.0 (Digi002) and recently bought the BFD drum plug in. My G4 can not handle this plug in, keeps stopping my protools session from playing/recording. I have the BFD program on my system drive with the BFD data on my 2nd internal hard drive, which also shares the audio data for my sessions. Does anyone have any experience with this plug in on a setup similar to mine?
I do not believe uping my RAM to the 1.5 max from 1g would have much effect.
My main question is this...what is required to effectively run this plug in so that it is usable (no cpu spikes). OR do I need to get a G5, and if so, what specs.
Thanks for the input.
Dual 1G G4 w/1G Ram Mac OS X (10.4.4) 2 Internal 80 gig drives

Hey Ivan-
Not sure if this will help, but make sure that the "Bounce" function in BFD is turned on before freezing the track. This should allow everything to resolve and play out all the way. The Bounce thing is the giant letter "B" at the bottom of the plug-in.
Not sure why you are getting the crash, though, before the Freeze. How much RAM do you have in your machine? BFD works best with at least 2GB.

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Two problems here!
1. I have one instance of BFD drums running and it is operating in 16 bit mode ( I chose this whilst working with the idea that I would switch to 24bit for final mix) to save RAM etc. if I leave logic idle for 20 minutes and then come back and play the track Logic will quit as soon as iut reaches the first region with BFD Midi notes. ANY IDEAS?
to counter this I have simply Frozen the track works well except!
2. with Freeze activated it seems to be cutting off notes way before the midi notes say to - for example a cymbal crash is cut off just a quarter the way through. ANY IDEAS?
any help would be appreciated.
Ivan

Hey Ivan-
Not sure if this will help, but make sure that the "Bounce" function in BFD is turned on before freezing the track. This should allow everything to resolve and play out all the way. The Bounce thing is the giant letter "B" at the bottom of the plug-in.
Not sure why you are getting the crash, though, before the Freeze. How much RAM do you have in your machine? BFD works best with at least 2GB.

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Hello.
I am having much difficulty using any software drum program. I am trying to use EZ Drummer and the drum programs in Logic, with limited success. I was using them, and they were working, but this is no longer the case. Please help me navigate my way through these issues, if possible.
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Aha! I have sorted it.
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Hello! Im quite new to Logic, just left Protools and Cubase. Is there anyone out there who knows how to:
1. Like in protools import a midi file and get the tempo info from the midifile, start position and evryting else that might be of interest.
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Hello! Im quite new to Logic, just left Protools and
Cubase. Is there anyone out there who knows how to:
1. Like in protools import a midi file and get the
tempo info from the midifile, start position and
evryting else that might be of interest.
2. I use BFD a lot, great program, very easy to use
in protools. But in logic it seems quite hard to
record each drum and each channel. I mean I want to
import a midifile for bfd or make a new one, second I
want to send each and every channel that BFD All got
to separate channels so I can record it for futher
work later on. How?? I cant get it. Its very easy in
Protools
3. Is there any other ways to mke new chnnels in
Logic than to use the drop down menu? I think this is
really not good if I compare to Protools way of
handeling making new tracks.
Hmm alright Im not quite a pro in logic but I really
really love the program and my computer seems to like
it a lot too.
Help me!
Mac G5 2,3GHz, 4,5 GB Ram, 2x250 GB HDD, 1 external
FW HDD 250 GB, 2 Samsung 193Plus
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so that I can create a hybrid ESX24 drum kit with my favorite snares, kicks, toms etc.
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I believe I said it all in the question...

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I'm trying to do just a basic task, and once I know how to do it, I will expand upon it.
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I thought this is what it's supposed to do. Send
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objects (which would start w/ 3-4).
Yes, I understand this, however all subsequent tracks (not just the next sequential tracks) pull up as 3-4. No further outputs are given once 3-4 has been selected once. They all come up with 3-4 if stereo or 3 or 4 if mono. Nothing else. That's why I now suspect it's an issue for FXpansion to solve.
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G4 Logic pro 8 and BFD

Hi
As some forum member may recall I have a G4 MDD iam running logic pro on however I tried installing BFD 2 and the cpu goes into the redzone but disk IO is nothing!!
Do I need to get a dual G4 cpu or get a G5
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Message was edited by: G4M

Hi,
BFD2 requirements shows G5 as the minimum...
2GB of RAM is the minimum too
anyway, just for try, go to bfd Engine settings
set to use 16 bit mode... aloso try to change the ammount of Layers... as 32 or less.
when install use "Small" option
... but it is very hard for your G4 to use BFD2... a friend of mine use a G4MDD but not BFD2.
hope this help.
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Realistic drum sound? Advice given and needed

I am trying to figure out how to get a decent, realistic (ish!) drum sound on the iPad, to use when recording garageband tracks. Let's face it, the smart drums just don't cut it. I have gone through seemingly tons of set-ups and configurations with different apps and so forth, and have sort of settled on a sound which is ok (for now) and is by far the best sound I've achieved so far. Bear in mind that, as a garageband user, I am not investing tons of money into tech - a few pounds per app is all I've spent really. First, I'll describe what I've done in the past, and what I currently do.
I started with the smart drums, of course. Tiresome very quickly, and they were naturally holding back the quality of my recordings by making them sound, basically, rubbish. I find that with drums, they either need to sound decently realistic, or completely electronic (like a drum machine). Anything in-between is nonsense and sounds bad.
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Another thing you may want to consider is the fact in order to sound like a human, don't play it like a robot. Quantize certain parts, but not every part (and it doesn't have to be at 100% - use lower strengths to bring out a bit of humanness). If you don't have one, get a pad input, such as M-Audio's Trigger Finger. Note the a lot of the kits in the EXS and JamPacks have a few articulations for drums that you need to make use of, such as flams, drags and rimshots to do various beats. Listen to various rhythms and fills and watch how drummers do it (plenty of videos on http://www.drummerworld.com). And, when you make a beat, play the beat.
Back to samples: if you find that Logic's kits still aren't cutting it for you, definitely go for something like BFD, DKFH or whatever. I fell in love with BFD and highly recommend it. As to whether it sounds like a drummer for you will depend on how you play it. For me, it definitely sounds like a drummer. :-D
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Triggering dfh or bfd from real drum recordings in logic

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Logic's "Audio to Score" does this quite well.
You'll need to adjust velocity settings to have it ignore mic bleed, and get the attack setting as low as possible to insure that the triggering is super tight.
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1 Connected the mIO between the TD-3 and the Mac's USB port.
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14 Read the help docs for both GarageBand and MIDI Studio.
15 Googled (and DuckDuckGo'd) the internet for two hours.
16 Watched some YouTube videos, where people didn't have to do anything special to get other drum kits to work in GarageBand
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18 Downloaded the user manual for the TD-3, read the MIDI section. Channel 10 is indeed what it uses for in and out. The internet seems to suggest this is the common channel for drum machines.
19 Didn't find anything that helped in these forums (and others)
And now I cry Uncle and throw my fate to the Apple community… help!
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Thank you
Message was edited by: briandigital -- forgot to add screenshots.

Just to be sure, have you connected the MIDI inputs/outputs correctly? It's rather confusing, if memory serves (been a little while since I did any MIDI).
You want the MIDI out on your v-drums connected to the MIDI in on the mIO interface, and the MIDI in on the v-drums connected to the MIDI out on the mIO. That is, you want the drums’ output to connect to the interface’s input, and the drums’ input connected to the interface’s output (in case you want to control the drums via GarageBand in some fashion).
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