G4 and G5 upgraded to Tiger

I am working in a prepress environment and will be upgrading our G4's and a G5 to Tiger from Panther 10.3.9. Will be running Adobe Creative Suite 3, Quark 7 and other programs. *Does anyone know of any issues that I should be aware of (i.e. slow downs, crashes, software problems, etc...)?* Please let me know. Thank you.

Hi Tom in London;
Since I plan to upgrade my PowerMac Quad to a Mac Pro later this year, I have been following the treads on Migration Assistant. From what I have read the general opinion is the best way to use MA is to install all of your applications first then use it to move over the data and settings.
If you don't the performance on the new Mac Pro could be slower then whatever the old computer. It appears that the Mac Pro is not able to use the applications as they were installed PowerPC Mac.
Allan

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Getting a larger hard drive...and want to upgrade to Tiger...help!

Hello everyone!
I have a dualie MDD with the stock 60 gig hard drive that I want to upgrade. I'd like a 200 or 250 gig hard drive.
Once I have the new hard drive installed, I'd like to upgrade to Tiger. But I'm lost as to how this process works. I know I'd need to clone my current OS, but then how do I clone it to the new drive once it's installed?
Would I:
1) Back my system up onto CD/DVDs/external drive/whatever
2) Create clone of system using CCC or Disk Utilities
3) Install new drive??
4) ???
5) Upgrade to Tiger??
I'm not sure if two drives running so close to each other inside the hard drive cage is a wise move considering how hot the inside of an MDD gets, so I may remove the 60 once everything is up and running.
So how do I go about this the right way? Detailed instructions would be very appreciated. Thank you!

Hi, Pat!
First of all, get the new drive and install it. (Insure you buy an ATA drive and not a SATA drive.) If you need any assistance with installing, configuring, or initializing the drive, please post back.
In the interim, check for updates to your third-party apps to make sure that they will all be up-to-date and Tiger-compatible. Download a free copy of Superduper! or CarbonCopyCloner to later clone your startup drive. You can also use Disk Utility's Restore option for cloning, if you'd rather do so.
Next, you have a decision to make about the Tiger install. You can either upgrade it from Panther on your current drive, or do a fresh install of Tiger and use the Setup Assistant to incorporate your data from the Panther volume. I prefer and would recommend the latter as a much "cleaner" way of upgrading, leaving less "baggage" from the older OS. I would install Tiger directly to the new drive, which precludes the immediate need to clone anything while still leaving the original startup drive and system intact. If you'd rather do the upgrade install, then you should clone the Panther volume to the new drive, check the clone to insure it's okay, and install Tiger over Panther onto one drive or the other.
After installing Tiger, doing the software updates, moving your user files, apps etc. to the Tiger volume, you can run and test it for a week or so to insure all is well and that you have everything you need from the Panther drive. Once you're satisfied, you can then either retain the Panther volume as-is, using it as an alternate startup drive, or (preferably) you can instead erase it, zero it, and clone a copy of your Tiger volume to it as a backup and alternate startup drive.
Feel free to post back with any questions or concerns and one or more of the members will gladly address them.
Gary
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I upgraded my iBook G4 from 384MBytes to 640Mbytes and upgraded from Tiger to Leopard. After a few weeks the HDD failed. New Leopard install reports: "insufficient memory". I need Tiger install disks so I can install

I upgraded my iBook G4 from 384MBytes to 640Mbytes and upgraded from Tiger to Leopard.
After a few weeks the HDD failed. I bought a new disk, installed it and trued to install Leopard, but the install fails reporting "insufficient memory".
I assume the installation requires more memory than the OS actually needs to be able to run.
I need Tiger install CD/DVD so I can install Tiger first and then upgrade to Leopard.

Call Apple Customer Support 1-800-767-2775, provide the Serial Number and specifications of the Mac, and for a reasonable fee, they will supply a replacement set of system discs (if available).
The discs will be for the original version of the OS that was pre-installed when the Mac was manufactured.
You need much more RAM than that.
Leopard system requirements:
http://support.apple.com/kb/SP517

I just bought a g4 power pc 1gig new in the box. I have an iMac that I had upgraded from Tiger to Lepoard. When I put my Lepoard disc in the g4 it gave me a message to restart but when I try to restart it only powers and repeats the message what do I do

I have an iMac that I upgraded from Tiger to Lepoard. I found a brand new power pc g4 1gig never unpacked and tried to use my Lepoard disk to upgrade the os but I get a restart message but when I power down it stays off and when I power up I get the restart message. If I can't upgrade to Lepoard how do I get the computer to eject my Lepoard disk and go back to the os that was on it? Thank you anyone who can advise.
Peace

When you power up the computer hold down the click bar on the track pad (or the left click on a mouse) and the computer will eject the disk.

Upgraded to Tiger OS and now color prints all wrong

I recently replaced my HD and upgraded to Tiger OS. Since then, my color prints have been horrible. My printer/copier is an Epson CX4800 and the color copies it produces are still OK. Trying to print a color print produces a pic with bands of color at the top and bottom borders, incorrect colors in the picture, and a weird type of "halo" effect around the objects within the picture. I have downloaded the newest updates/drivers for my particular printer. I have tried printing different types of files (JPEG, GIF) and get the same results. The printer/copier itself checks out OK (nozzle check, head alignment, etc). Any ideas??
thanks,
theresa
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Theresa, my old Epson 740 did exactly the same thing as you described after updating toTiger 10.4.8. I just chalked it up to the printer being so ancient. Like you I went through all the cleaning rituals. However, I also have an Epson Stylus Photo R220 which survived the update.
Did you by any chance repair permissions after you updated? (Apparently, this did not work for my ancient Epson.)
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25751 About Disk Utility's Repair Disk Permissions feature
If by chance you did repair permissions, maybe you should contact Epson and/or check out their support site to see if there is some sort an issue w/your model printer & the latest Tiger update.

Upgraded to Tiger and suddenly lost 512MB of RAM....

I have a very odd situation. I have a 1.5Ghz 15'' Titanium Powerbook that came with 1GB of RAM. I bought it about a year and a half ago. I just upgraded to Tiger a few days ago and I have noticed that my computer is running slower. It was weird to me that the new operating system made my computer run slower so I checked my RAM. I went to "About This Mac" under the Apple icon and it now tells me that I only have 512 ram on my computer. I am wondering how this could be possible that it isn't recognizing the rest of my RAM. I know for a FACT my computer had a Gig of ram.
Thanks for the help!

Hi, J. Stone. If your computer has a 1.5GHz processor, it's Aluminum, not Titanium, and you need to repost in the Aluminum forums.
Successive versions of OS X have gotten fussier and fussier about RAM meeting the letter of Apple's specifications. If it doesn't meet those specs to a "T", it disappears. I don't know what other Albook owners are likely to tell you about RAM compatibility problems on your model (your RAM is quite different from that used in the Tibooks), but if one of your two RAM modules was purchased from a third-party source rather than from Apple, now is the time to check the warranty that was provided with it. Is Mac OS X compatibility guaranteed "for life", as is often the case with RAM? Some third-party RAM vendors will replace modules that "go bad" after OS updates or upgrades.
If all your RAM was bought directly from Apple, you have a good case for replacement, as long as your warranty hasn't run its course already.

Upgraded from Tiger and Mail is unresponsive

Hey gang-
Well tonight finally made the plunge and upgraded from Tiger 10.4.11 to Leopard 10.5.6. Naturally one of the first apps I tried was the new Mail 3.5. Unfortunately it is absolutely dead. Clicking Get Mail does nothing, and none of the email in my .Mac Inbox displays. Neither does any of my email saved locally, even though all the folders from the Tiger version of Mail are there. Clicking on each looks as though they are empty.
I have good internet connectivity, as Safari works fine. It appears that all my Mail account data transferred correctly- all my account server data is there.
FWIW, when I look at Activity in Mail, it shows two activities- both called "Gathering Children from disk for local account".
Also of interest- the only way to quit Mail is with Force Quit.
Gaccch this is a bad way to start with Leopard! Any ideas how to get Mail working?
Thanks!
Dave

Thanks to Adam I found the reply here:
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=1849306&tstart=0
Alas I think I'm going back to Tiger...

I am trying to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard. When I insert the disk and install starts, it states "This disk is used for Time Machine backups" and Mac OSX can't be installed. Does anyone know how to correct this (since Tiger doesn't have Time Mach

I am trying to upgrade from Tiger to Snow Leopard. When I insert the disk and install starts, it states "This disk is used for Time Machine backups" and Mac OSX can't be installed. Does anyone know how to correct this (since Tiger doesn't have Time Machine)?

http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2986

I have upgraded from tiger to leopard and seem to have lost Photoshop 7.0. how do i retrieve it?

I have upgraded from tiger to leopard and seem to have lost Photoshop 7.0. Is it possible to retrieve it

Photoshop 7.0 only goes as far as 10.4.11
If you have a drive, you can put 10.4.11 on it or a partition of it
and save some money.
I am not convinced the upgrade is worth it,
but I just do simple things.

Upgrading to Tiger - HDD Space and others

I am finally upgrading to tiger today. I have a few questions though:
Are there options you can select to reduce the amount of space the install will use up, is the 3GB listed by Apple an accurate estimate?
Are there any settings, files, apps that really won't be saved in the upgrade and need backing up before hand?
Are there any other things I should do before upgrading?
Thanks in advance for any help.

Hello Robin.
Yes there are options by selecting customize.
Unless you need localization files for other languages installed, deselect all but English which will save about 200 MB of hard drive space and the same for Printer drivers.
You can deselect installing any printer drivers you don't need.
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301175
Regarding the amount of hard drive space needed for the installation, it depends on your installation choice.
Simple Upgrade
Archive & Install
Erase & Install
If you use Simple Upgrade, all system components and Apple applications will be upgraded to the Tiger version. All user and network settings, user data and 3rd party applications are retained.
If you use Archive & Install (selecting preserve user and network settings), the Tiger OS is installed completely new and the old OS is archived and saved as a previous system folder. All user and network settings, user data and most 3rd party applications and settings will be transferred to the new system. If some data or settings are missing, you have access to it in the archived previous system folder. You cannot boot the computer from the archived previous system folder and after confirming all user and network settings, user data and 3rd party application settings were successfully transferred to the new system, you can (and should) safely delete the archived previous system folder.
If you use the Erase & Install method, the hard drive will be completely erased first and the Tiger OS and included applications on the Tiger install disc will be installed only.
Regardless the install method chosen, your very first step should be creating a backup of all important data before installing a major OS Upgrade such as Tiger.
I use a backup utility called SuperDuper! which creates a complete bootable clone of my hard drive saved to a Firewire drive.
These are the steps I take in order before installing a major OS Upgrade such as Tiger.
Update my bootable clone backup.
Disconnect all external peripheral devices except for a keyboard and mouse.
Boot from the Tiger install disc and after selecting the language, at the next screen navigate to Disk Utility via the installer menu bar and run Disk First Aid repair on the hard drive. If any problems are reported and successfully repaired, run repair again until no problems are reported. Quit Disk Utility and the focus returns to the installer.
I don't recall the order but I believe you choose the install type and then customize the installation.
I prefer and have always used the Archive & Install method and if you use this method, be sure to select preserve user and network settings.
Customize the installation by deselecting any and all language localization files you do not need and the same for printer drivers.
Within 30 minutes or so, you should be up and running.
If you currently have limited free hard drive space or if this is a concern, check Problems from Insufficient RAM and Free Hard Disk Space before installing Tiger.

I am upgrading from Tiger to SL in a MCBPro with 2 gb ram and an intel chip and I get the following notice: Installation failed.... THE INSTALLER COULD NOT COPY THE NCESSARY SUPPORT FILES. Any help is apprciated

I am upgrading from Tiger to SL in a MCBPro with 2 gb ram and an intel chip and I get the following notice: Installation failed.... THE INSTALLER COULD NOT COPY THE NCESSARY SUPPORT FILES. Any help is appreciated...

Yes. I've found that works best. Especially if the drive is external, since external connections are typically slower, and Spotlight loves to eat up space going back and forth. Time Machine will eat up as much space as it can, and typically needs drives at least twice the size of the original hard drive that is being backed up, if being backed up in full. So unfortunately there is a lot of empty space that is needed for smooth operation.

HELP!!!! Just upgrade to Tiger and now nothing works

Please help me iv just upgraded to tiger and now none of my programs will open they crash on start-up, and also when i restart i get a little box with a blue globe inside it. then it goes to the unhappy face in a folder icon, then eventually it starts up. Please help me im buggerd without the mac.

Hi Andy!
What size is the Hard Drive, and how much space is avaialble?
How much RAM is installed, and is it original or added?
Did you use a Full Retail Version, of the Tiger Install DVD, to upgrade?
Did you do an Archive & Install, preserving User settings & preferences, installation, and if so, is the Previous System folder still on the HD?
ali b

Buying refurb eMac, and need to upgrade to Tiger.. Help!

So, my friend is looking to buy her first Mac, and I'm trying to help her with all the details. Unfortunately, the eMac is loaded with 10.3. She'd preobably be okay with this, as she's just gonna be surfing the net, and emailing. Nothing big. But I'd love for her to have the best she can get.
So.. How much will it cost for her to upgrade to Tiger, first off? And secondly, was iLife only included as a pack-in, on Tiger?
Thanks so much.
Justin Cash

Hi Justin,
If she is only going to be surfing & emailing 10.3 will work for her admirably. Panther is a good stable OS which many thousands of people are still using. Just make sure that she has the latest version installed by running Software Update. 10.3.9 is the latest version.
According to Apple's Specifications some eMacs came with the version of iLife that was current at the time, some apparently didn't, but it certainly wasn't a Tiger only inclusion.
If you really want her to have Tiger and the latest iLife then Baltwo has given you the relevant info. iLife 06 is the latest version and will work with Panther or Tiger.
Adrian

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

Am replacing airport extreme with Time Machine and want to upgrade from Tiger to Snow leopard. Am told I should manually back up into T Machine before OS update but set up utility won't allow anything with OS below 10.5 and I'm 10.4.11. What to do?

I think you mean you are replacing your Airport Extreme with a Time Capsule. Time Machine is software integrated into OS X 10.5 & 10.6 used to automatically backup a system to an external HD. Time Capsule is an Airport Extreme that has a hard disk integrated into it that can be used for storage or as a Time Machine backup drive.
Because you are currently on Tiger 10.4.x you can backup to a external HD using SuperDuper or Carbon Copy Cloner. Having a backup is very wise before doing any major system update. After you have created the backup and have successfully upgraded to Snow Leopard you can still use the external HD for many things. The strategy I'd recommend is to use the new Time Capsule as your Time Machine backup and then use the external HD as backup using SuperDuper or CCC. Redundant backups is wise because backups can (and do) fail too! In addition both SD and CCC are bootable clones, this is useful in that if your internal HD crashes you can boot from a cloned drive and continue working until the internal HD is replaced.
Below are some links to some articles from MacWorld, I would recommend reading them where you find a common theme, redundant backups. Backup Plan I, Backup Plan II & Backup Plan III.
Roger

Ical and other applications crash/freeze after upgrade to tiger

I upgraded to Tiger over a year ago, and this problem has persisted since then. I haven't had time to fix it, but I really miss ical and the other programs that crash.
This is whats going on:
my ical, mail, ichat and address book freeze upon opening, or open and then crash. None of these programs work. I have tried all of the trouble shooting articles on the website. I have reinstalled tiger (twice) using archive + install.
I have also created a new user account, and i did not experience the problems on that account. So, i know it is my user account. However, I don't know what that means, and I don't know what i can do.
Any and all assistance is greatly appreciated. I can try to post the crash reports (if someone would find them helpful and can tell me how to find them..)
thanks again for any help, I really appreciate it.
Kate

See this other discussion which uses a different phrase / set of keywords ("iCal hangs"):
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=545343&tstart=0
(I've been learning that the phrase you use in searching is critical in getting to the issue you are researching—and you can not use a Boolean AND or OR in these searches, so finding out common phrases to use can be a big help.)
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