G4 Digital 466 (Leopard Install) Boot from "C"

Thank you for Looking, I have operated my G4/466 since 2000.
My Upgrades over the years are:
Sonnet/Encore 1.8 gig processor
ATI Radeon 9600 Mac & PC Version
(3) 512 Sticks
I purchased Leopard, installed it on my Slave Drive (original 30 gig disk), worked Great.
decided to Update on my 60 Gig upgrade, my main Start up w/ the Family as Users.
Leopard never loaded, put the install disk back in, Ran TechTool, and I am not able to use my Command Start up Keys.
I cannot boot from CD/DVD by holding Down "C".
Are there any Options??
Disk Warrior will not even boot!

"My Reader is a Sony Upgrade DVD."
Some third-party drives aren't bootable in a Mac, and since Sony has outsourced the manufacture of its optical drives for some time, you never really know what you're buying from them with any given model. I had a Memorex (manufactured by LG) DVD±RW drive that wouldn't boot from the OS installer disk, without a little manual persuasion. After selecting the optical drive as the Startup Disk, the drive would attempt to do so for about 15-30 seconds, then it would eject it. My solution was to immediately close the tray w/disk as soon as it ejected, and then it would boot from it. This was more trouble than it's worth, so I replaced it with a Pioneer DVD±RW drive. Pioneer's drives have a reputation for being more Mac-compatible than many other brands. Did you set the Sony DVD drive's configuration jumper to MA "Master" (and not CS "Cable Select"), before you installed it?

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