G4 firewire port is damaging external drives

My 400 MHz G4 tower has suddenly started killing the firewire ports on my external drives (four in total). I found out I have what is known as a "killer firewire port". Has anyone else ever heard of this and If so can I fix this problem by simply installing a new firewire port PCI card on my G4?

Hi
If a firewire port or connector is poorly manufactured or excessively worn due to lots of plugging and unplugging, it is possible for a power pin in the port to connect to a data pin in the connector, frying whatever's attached to the other end of the cable. Assuming the problem lies with the port and not the connector, a PCI card should solve the problem. I'm not sure whether you've tried using different cables to rule out the connector. You could see how much you can waggle the connector in the port (with everything switched off at the wall socket).

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Anonymous UUID:
899BDEBE-0285-4D08-6A7D-9DF556C83CA9
Sun Mar 31 04:16:40 2013
panic(cpu 2 caller 0xffffff8000ab7e95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f82a6dca6, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x0000000000000068, CR3: 0x000000006b37804f, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
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R8: 0xffffff8015781200, R9: 0xffffff8120f58000, R10: 0x0000000000000001, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0x0000000000000000, R13: 0xffffff7f82e6a7d0, R14: 0xffffff80146a8c00, R15: 0xffffff801365d600
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0xffffff80f1673650 : 0xffffff8000a1d626
0xffffff80f16736c0 : 0xffffff8000ab7e95
0xffffff80f1673890 : 0xffffff8000acd4dd
0xffffff80f16738b0 : 0xffffff7f82a6dca6
0xffffff80f16739e0 : 0xffffff7f82ac4fbc
0xffffff80f1673a10 : 0xffffff7f82a81f2f
0xffffff80f1673a40 : 0xffffff7f82a82efd
0xffffff80f1673a70 : 0xffffff7f82aec230
0xffffff80f1673ab0 : 0xffffff7f82a8303a
0xffffff80f1673ae0 : 0xffffff7f82a75d48
0xffffff80f1673b40 : 0xffffff7f82a81990
0xffffff80f1673ba0 : 0xffffff8000e65ab3
0xffffff80f1673bc0 : 0xffffff8000e6668d
0xffffff80f1673c20 : 0xffffff8000e6408f
0xffffff80f1673d70 : 0xffffff8000a984a1
0xffffff80f1673e80 : 0xffffff8000a20aed
0xffffff80f1673eb0 : 0xffffff8000a10448
0xffffff80f1673f00 : 0xffffff8000a1961b
0xffffff80f1673f70 : 0xffffff8000aa5dd6
0xffffff80f1673fb0 : 0xffffff8000acdd43
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Kernel UUID: 3EB7D8A7-C2D3-32EC-80F4-AB37D61492C6
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Kernel text base: 0xffffff8000a00000
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com.apple.kec.corecrypto
1.0
Model: MacBookPro8,2, BootROM MBP81.0047.B27, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.5 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.69f4
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 512 MB
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6770M, AMD Radeon HD 6770M, PCIe, 1024 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334448302D4348392020
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334448302D4348392020
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD6), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.16)
Bluetooth: Version 4.1.3f3 11349, 2 service, 18 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS727575A9E362, 750,16 GB
Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfa100000 / 3
USB Device: External, 0x13fd (Initio Corporation), 0x1840, 0xfa130000 / 6
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0253, 0xfa120000 / 5
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x821a, 0xfa113000 / 8
USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x8509, 0xfa200000 / 2
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: eGo USB, 0x059b (Iomega Corporation), 0x0070, 0xfd120000 / 4
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd110000 / 3

Hi Viking, travelling and working down here in Brazil, no idea how much a 1.5 GB HDD costs! Had to buy 2 of them and manage to save almost everything.
Anyway the system keeps crashing by itself. I really upgraded tuxera but keeps giving me the old version.
As for Cycling it's ok for the system.
Don't know what to do anymore and I'm affraid to loose more data having to work for another 90 days here!
Thanks and if you can keep helping me...
Interval Since Last Panic Report: 505870 sec
Panics Since Last Report:          2
Anonymous UUID:                    899BDEBE-0285-4D08-6A7D-9DF556C83CA9
Sat Apr 6 17:37:41 2013
panic(cpu 0 caller 0xffffff80074b7e95): Kernel trap at 0xffffff7f8945eca6, type 14=page fault, registers:
CR0: 0x0000000080010033, CR2: 0x0000000000000068, CR3: 0x00000001fc03603d, CR4: 0x00000000000606e0
RAX: 0x0000000000000000, RBX: 0xffffff801cdd9000, RCX: 0x0000000000000001, RDX: 0x0000000000000000
RSP: 0xffffff80f80139b0, RBP: 0xffffff80f80139e0, RSI: 0xffffff8019fdfc00, RDI: 0xffffff801cdd9000
R8: 0xffffff80338c0f00, R9: 0xffffff811b8c0000, R10: 0x0000000000000001, R11: 0x0000000000000000
R12: 0x0000000000000000, R13: 0xffffff7f8985b7d0, R14: 0xffffff8019fdfc00, R15: 0xffffff801cdd9000
RFL: 0x0000000000010246, RIP: 0xffffff7f8945eca6, CS: 0x0000000000000008, SS: 0x0000000000000010
Fault CR2: 0x0000000000000068, Error code: 0x0000000000000002, Fault CPU: 0x0
Backtrace (CPU 0), Frame : Return Address
0xffffff80f8013650 : 0xffffff800741d626
0xffffff80f80136c0 : 0xffffff80074b7e95
0xffffff80f8013890 : 0xffffff80074cd4dd
0xffffff80f80138b0 : 0xffffff7f8945eca6
0xffffff80f80139e0 : 0xffffff7f894b5fbc
0xffffff80f8013a10 : 0xffffff7f89472f2f
0xffffff80f8013a40 : 0xffffff7f89473efd
0xffffff80f8013a70 : 0xffffff7f894dd230
0xffffff80f8013ab0 : 0xffffff7f8947403a
0xffffff80f8013ae0 : 0xffffff7f89466d48
0xffffff80f8013b40 : 0xffffff7f89472990
0xffffff80f8013ba0 : 0xffffff8007865ab3
0xffffff80f8013bc0 : 0xffffff800786668d
0xffffff80f8013c20 : 0xffffff800786408f
0xffffff80f8013d70 : 0xffffff80074984a1
0xffffff80f8013e80 : 0xffffff8007420aed
0xffffff80f8013eb0 : 0xffffff8007410448
0xffffff80f8013f00 : 0xffffff800741961b
0xffffff80f8013f70 : 0xffffff80074a5dd6
0xffffff80f8013fb0 : 0xffffff80074cdd43
      Kernel Extensions in backtrace:
         com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily(30.14)[8CAD17E4-8359-3015-BCFC-F1964357CBFE ]@0xffffff7f89450000->0xffffff7f8949afff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f8796c000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.7)[38C214C0-83C8-3594-8A4C-DC6AC3FEC163]@0xff ffff7f880cd000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.7)[74E3E50F-E50A-3073-8C96-06F854292A91]@0 xffffff7f8808a000
         com.apple.AMDRadeonAccelerator(1.0.6)[1DDF899D-B472-36DF-A08D-365D3221F6CE]@0xf fffff7f894a6000->0xffffff7f8985cfff
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOAcceleratorFamily(30.14)[8CAD17E4-8359-3015-BCFC-F1964357CBFE ]@0xffffff7f89450000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.7.3)[1D668879-BEF8-3C58-ABFE-FAC6B3E9A292]@0xffff ff7f8796c000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.3.7)[38C214C0-83C8-3594-8A4C-DC6AC3FEC163]@0xff ffff7f880cd000
            dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.3.7)[74E3E50F-E50A-3073-8C96-06F854292A91]@0 xffffff7f8808a000
BSD process name corresponding to current thread: plugin-container
Mac OS version:
12D78
Kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 12.3.0: Sun Jan 6 22:37:10 PST 2013; root:xnu-2050.22.13~1/RELEASE_X86_64
Kernel UUID: 3EB7D8A7-C2D3-32EC-80F4-AB37D61492C6
Kernel slide:     0x0000000007200000
Kernel text base: 0xffffff8007400000
System model name: MacBookPro8,2 (Mac-94245A3940C91C80)
System uptime in nanoseconds: 110643967891780
last loaded kext at 107698276016373: com.apple.filesystems.cd9660    1.4.3 (addr 0xffffff7f899dc000, size 36864)
last unloaded kext at 107848572264075: com.apple.driver.AppleUSBCDC    4.1.23 (addr 0xffffff7f899a1000, size 12288)
loaded kexts:
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Model: MacBookPro8,2, BootROM MBP81.0047.B27, 4 processors, Intel Core i7, 2.5 GHz, 8 GB, SMC 1.69f4
Graphics: Intel HD Graphics 3000, Intel HD Graphics 3000, Built-In, 512 MB
Graphics: AMD Radeon HD 6770M, AMD Radeon HD 6770M, PCIe, 1024 MB
Memory Module: BANK 0/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334448302D4348392020
Memory Module: BANK 1/DIMM0, 4 GB, DDR3, 1333 MHz, 0x80CE, 0x4D34373142353237334448302D4348392020
AirPort: spairport_wireless_card_type_airport_extreme (0x14E4, 0xD6), Broadcom BCM43xx 1.0 (5.106.98.100.16)
Bluetooth: Version 4.1.3f3 11349, 2 service, 18 devices, 1 incoming serial ports
Network Service: Wi-Fi, AirPort, en1
Serial ATA Device: Hitachi HTS727575A9E362, 750,16 GB
Serial ATA Device: MATSHITADVD-R   UJ-8A8
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfa100000 / 3
USB Device: eGo USB, 0x059b (Iomega Corporation), 0x0070, 0xfa130000 / 6
USB Device: Apple Internal Keyboard / Trackpad, apple_vendor_id, 0x0253, 0xfa120000 / 5
USB Device: BRCM2070 Hub, 0x0a5c (Broadcom Corp.), 0x4500, 0xfa110000 / 4
USB Device: Bluetooth USB Host Controller, apple_vendor_id, 0x821a, 0xfa113000 / 8
USB Device: FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in), apple_vendor_id, 0x8509, 0xfa200000 / 2
USB Device: hub_device, 0x0424 (SMSC), 0x2513, 0xfd100000 / 2
USB Device: External, 0x13fd (Initio Corporation), 0x1840, 0xfd120000 / 4
USB Device: IR Receiver, apple_vendor_id, 0x8242, 0xfd110000 / 3

USB ports not recognizing external drive

My external (backup) drives are not regularly showing up when plugged in to the USB port.

Start by looking for the drive in the Apple System Profiler (from the Apple menu's far left Apple logo>About This Mac>More Info>Hardware (in left column) >USB.) If the drive is correctly powered and connected, it will show up here.
If it doesn't show up, the problem is with the drive. With the drive plugged in, put your ear to the drive and listen for the whirring sound the drive makes when it is powered up. If it isn't making any sound, ot's either a bad drive or a bad power supply.
If the drive is making sound , then the problem is probably the USB cable or your USB port. Try a different USB cable. This should fix the problem; if all the above tests were good and the drive still doesn't mount, it may be the USB controller in the Mac. That's a serious problem that requires repair or installation of an aftermarket USB controller.
Hope this helps

Usb port not recognizing external drive

When I plug my external backup drive, Lacie, into either USB ports on my MacBook Pro, it is not recognizing the drive. Not sure if I powered down incorrectly. It use to recognize it. Help.

Start by looking for the drive in the Apple System Profiler (from the Apple menu's far left Apple logo>About This Mac>More Info>Hardware (in left column) >USB.) If the drive is correctly powered and connected, it will show up here.
If it doesn't show up, the problem is with the drive. With the drive plugged in, put your ear to the drive and listen for the whirring sound the drive makes when it is powered up. If it isn't making any sound, ot's either a bad drive or a bad power supply.
If the drive is making sound , then the problem is probably the USB cable or your USB port. Try a different USB cable. This should fix the problem; if all the above tests were good and the drive still doesn't mount, it may be the USB controller in the Mac. That's a serious problem that requires repair or installation of an aftermarket USB controller.
Hope this helps

Recover an iMovie from a failed external drive?

Has anyone been able to get an entire iMovie recovered from a failed external Firewire drive? My LaCie just won't power up despite having its light come on, and having other external drives connected through it to my iMac and working fine.
I was about to do some backing up after finishing some edits on my latest iMovie, located on that drive. The edits were taking a longer time than usual, with spinning beach ball going on and on, so I decided to restart the Mac and see if that would speed things up. A restart resulted in a totally white screen for over 20 minutes, so I powered off with the switch, and powered on again with it a few minutes later. After three tries, including trying to boot from the installation disk, the iMac sprang to life again, and three of my external drives came on as usual, but not the La Cie that has my iPhotoLibraries and the iMovies I am working on. It is not a problem with power cords or the Firewire cables, as I swapped them out with the other drives, and everything works except this drive will not power up. Its light comes on, and the Firewire ports allow the other drive to come on, as this one is the one connected to the iMac, but the drive remains cold and quiet, just sits there with its blue light blinking.
I just need it to power on long enough to transfer my data to another drive.
I will settle for drive-recovery if that means I will get all my movies and photos back......anyone ever had to use a drive recovery service for this? If so, how did it work?
I do have backups for the photos, but not all of them as I don't usually backup every day. The movies will have to be recreated I can do this, it will just take lots of time......
not happy with this situation....any support/sympathy greatly appreciated!

Beverly Maneatis wrote:
.. The drive comes on and its light blinks, but does not progress to the drive powering up and the light becoming a solid nonblinking. ..
sorry to contradict you, Bev, but the drive itself has no lights.. :
(pic by wikipedia)
THIS is your drive with your precious data .. no blinks ...
ok, I'm a typically 'Tim Taylor/Home Improvement'-guy (incl. friends in hospital...), so maybe a daredevil about screwing things up/open (pun-taaaa). if you open the housing (usually 4 screws on bottom), you would see a power-supply, some small board for the interface electronics, a fan, some small board for some other electronics. and two cables: one with 4 cables (=power), one flat cable with ~20something wires (=data).. the drive is fixed with another four screws.. it is really dead easy, and you can not damage the drive itself, except you wear some angora and plastic sandals, to get some zillion of volts of static electricity into your fingertips ...
so, if you find a nice PC-guy, ask him to place the drive into another housing (usb or fw.. doesn't matter...).. for a pro, that is a 5min procedure.. I'm pretty sure, it will work! < fingers crossed > < throwing ash over shoulder > < murmering some Hun's incantaion >

Install Leopard on an External Drive on a Snow Leopard Mac Book Pro

Hi
I have a MBP 17/CTO 2.66GHz i7, which came installed with Snow Leopard.
I've used boot camp to install Windows 7.
I've attempted to install Leopard 10.5.4 on an external drive.
The steps I've taken:
1 - Connected my WD Passport on the Firewire Port
2 - Partitioned the drive. The first partition is 100GB, Mac OS/X Extended (journal) and I've selected the GUID Partition Scheme
3 - Inserted the Mac OS/X Leopard DVD, and followed the instructions to restart
4 - On restart I have three options. Mac OS, Windows and Install Mac OS\X
5 - I select Install Mac OS\X.
6 - The disc spins for a few moments and then the laptop freezes
Beware of the following issue:
1 - On restart more often than not, the DISC will spin and then the laptop will freeze.
2 - To overcome this, restarting pressing the ALT (option) Key.
3 - You should see your boot options. If you do not see "Install Mac OS\X", then eject and reinsert the disc.
The question maybe why would I want to have an Leopard Installation when I have Snow Leopard. The software I develop has thrown up a number of differences between Leopard and Snow Leopard, hence I need both OS's to support my software.
I mentioned this to the Apple Store before I purchased my machine. They put me through to a senior technician at Apple Care, who told me it would be possible to have the set up I am after; and to contact Apple Care if I ran into any difficulties.
After I received my laptop and ran into the problems I described above I contacted Apple Care, only to be told by a senior technician that it should be possible to install Leopard on an external drive, but Apple Care cannot provide any support or assistance.
I really do like the laptop and would much rather not return the laptop; but I really do need the setup described.
Anyway I have tried a number of different approaches:
1 - Having no partitions (so just the single partition)
2 - Trying all three Partition Schemes:
- GUILD Partition Table
- Apple Partition Map
- Master Boot Record
All resulting in the same problem.
I can confirm the external drive does appear as bootable in disc info.
My guess is one of the following is preventing the install:
1 - It is simply not possible to install an earlier version of Mac OS\X than 10.6 on the laptop I have, even if I tried to install on an external drive. This restriction is built into some hardware confirguration. So even if I wiped the internal hard drive or added a new partition to the internal hard drive, I would not be able to install 10.5.4. I say this may be a reason as the second technician told me the CPU has built into it a process which prevents installing older versions of Mac OS/X, but that it should NOT restrict installation on an external harddrive.
2 - When trying to install Mac OS/X, a search is carried out for an external drive which has the correct format. For some reason it may be that this search is not finding my external drive?
I'm a little stuck here and quite disapointed that the support promised by Apple Care for assistance in setting this up, is now not forth coming.
Any help or suggestions would be appreciated, as ideally I would prefer to keep and not return the laptop, it's a beautiful piece of machinery.
Cheers
Parmy

The mystery continues...
I have an older MBP (2.33 GHz Intel Core Duo) which came installed with Tiger. I can confirm I purchased a genuine copy of Leopard (10.5.4) from the Apple Store and it’s not an OEM version. I installed 10.5.4 without a hitch on my old MBP internal drive. It is the only OS installed on my old MBP.
Using my older MBP (which through software updates is now running 10.5.7), I managed to install 10.5.4 onto my external HD (WD My Passport Studio – 640GB FireWire 800).
However; on the final restart, the screen remained grey and 10.5.4 did not boot from the external drive.
I restarted the machine holding down the ALT (option) key, and only two options appeared, Macintosh HD and the Install DVD. I selected the Macintosh HD and opened System Preferences.
In System Preferences --> Startup Disk, I discovered the partition on my external HD which contains 10.5.4. I selected this partition and selected restart.
On restart my MBP displayed a grey screen, and the blue light on my hard drive flashed slowly. I left this for an hour, however; the OS did not start and the screen remained grey.
I then plugged my external HD into my new MBP which I started holding down the ALT key.
To my surprise I found 3 boot options (Macintosh HD, Windows and Leopard). Leopard being the partition on my external drive, which now has 10.5.4 installed.
I selected Leopard, but sadly after 30 minutes, the OS failed to boot.
Although this deviates slightly from this post, I fail to understand the problem here:
1 – Why can’t I boot 10.5.4 on an external drive, from my old MBP? Surely this is not because my old MBP is now running 10.5.7?
2 – Why can I see 10.5.4 as a boot option on my new MBP but not on my old MBP when I start the MBP holding down the ALT key?
I doubt there is a problem with my external drive, as it seems to read, write, etc... in all normal cases.
Whilst it definitely appears that I won’t be able to boot 10.5.4 on an external drive from my new MBP, I should be able to at least boot it from my old MBP, which would give me the option of installing Snow Leopard and Windows on the internal drive of my old MBP.
Apologies for keeping this post going, but I hope by getting to the bottom of this, it will help other Mac users as well.
I’ve run out of ideas of things to try, so I will give Apple Care another call in the morning, and will report back.
Any suggestions of other things I can try?
Cheers

Checking for FireWire port trouble

Hello,
I've got an iMac G3 running OS 10.4.11 and would like to know if there is a way to check the status of the 2 FireWire ports without the external DVD drive that was used to install OS X. The drive stopped working and has been sent for repair and/or replacement. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Do you want to confirm that the FireWire bus/port is operating correctly and that it's not the cause of the external DVD drive's failure? Obviously, another FireWire device would provide the answer, since you're not going to be able to check the FireWire controller chip on the motherboard.

Daisy chain external drive?

I was looking into getting something like this:
http://www.overstock.com/Electronics/Coolmax-Aluminum-Hard-Drive-Enclosure/24790 01/product.html
for two computers to work on outside of a wireless/AirExtreme router where there isnt an option to connect a harddrive to the usb port. so i was wondering could potentially one computer be hooked up to the usb port of an external drive like this and the other via firewire and share and swap files if necessary or atleast access them?
or unless there is a more stable, reliable and better option, id love to hear any suggestions
thank you so much!

Hi AppleNewton;
You asked; "one computer be hooked up to the usb port of an external drive like this and the other via firewire and share and swap files if necessary or atleast access them?
You never ever what to connect one drive to multiple Mac directly. Mac OS does not support disk lock with multiply system. Hence this is a sure way to corrupt the data on the drive.
Allan

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The firewire ports on my Cube seem to be dead, in that the Cube is not able to see an external drive connected to either of the ports (and the external drive can be seen when connected to another computer). Is that sufficient evidence to conclude that my firewire ports are dead? Is there any software test I could perform? Is it possible to repair the firewire ports?
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I see a PDF on the top of this search page. And a little lower down is link to a video on removing the board.
http://www.google.com/search?q=replacelogic+board+mac+cube&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&clien t=firefox-a#q=replace+logic+board+g4cube&hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=slH&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&prmd=ivfd&ei=_ UG6TPyDB8P6lwep6IDFDA&start=10&sa=N&fp=6b353df19b06cafa
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