G4 Gigabit install problem: Thinks that DVD drive is Hd:1, ...

Ok i've little homebrew system here:
G4 Gigabit ethernet motherboard
Dual 450 cpu
640MB SDRAM
TI4600 with modbios, works like charm
120GB maxtor in UATA port
IDE DVD drive in Secondary ATA port
So i'm running into problems when installing OS, doesn't matter is is debian or OS X, still same problem:
Open Firmware thinks that my DVD drive is a HDD!
For exsample:
Normal debian install command:
CD:,\install\yaboot and here's the result: can't OPEN boot cd:,\install\yaboot
Well this atleast gives a result:
HD:1,\install\yaboot but i run into parameter problems.
So how do i rename HD:1, to CD?
And reset-nvram - set-defaults - reset-all gives me a Bad Defaults error...
Nothing more this time :P

Hi, s0liddi -
Welcome to Apple's Discussions.
Perhaps the optical drive was replaced at one time? Make sure that the jumpers on the optical drive are set to Master (not to Slave or to Cable Select). On early G4s like your G4 (GE), the optical drive is bootable only when set to Master.

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