G4 iBook - logic board replacement

I have a 12" 1.25ghz G4 iBook w/ dual usb that I picked up recently that has a fried logicboard - as the 1.25ghz logicboard replacement parts I've priced are frankly a bit expensive, is it possible to use a 12" G4 logicboard of a lesser speed, and if so, which would work and which would not?

psignosis:
Take a look at these substitutions suggested by PowerBookTech:
1.33 GHz for 1.2 GHz
800 MHz for 1.2 GHz
You may want to contact PowerBookTech and check out the feasibility. You can also check out prices elsewhere, once you have determined it can be done.
cornelius

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Performing a system restore on iBook that has had its logic board replaced

I want ot do a system restore on my iBook G3. I had to send it in for a logic board replacement and received new install discs when it was returned to me. My problem is that I would like to have my iPhoto software and iMovie software that was installed on my computer when I purchased it. I have to do a clean install with the Mac OS X 10.3 disks that were shipped with the replacement of the logic board I will lose this. I want to use the system restore disks that came with my iBook when I originally purchased it. Is this possible since I have had my logic board replaced?

The simplest way to reinstall iPhoto and iMovie is to download Pacifist and then extract the relevant applications from the Software Restore Discs.
Pacifist comes with instructions; this is not a difficult operation and there is no need for erase & install to recover the applications.
Pacifist is Shareware, but you need not pay the fee in order to use it. Every time that you open Pacifist you will be prompted to purchase a licence. If you feel that Pacifist is worth the money (and I think that it is), you can purchase a licence at any stage.
If you're a plonker like me, then purchasing a licence will provide justification for third party developers like CharlesSoft to save the day for the rest of us.
Good luck!

Should I repair an Ibook logic board

I can have a 12 inch ibook 1.2ghz if I pay to repair it. It was just 14 months old, had been treated with great respect, when the logic board failed. Needless to say its owner had not purchased any extended warranty. Its owner purchased a new macbook and put the ibook in a drawer because he decided it was not worth the repair. I would use this ibook to replace my old Powerbook 3400c that died finally. I see on the forums that logic board failure is a problem with ibooks and that many people replace one only to have it fail. My question is whether it is worth replacing this ibook logic board? Is there a generic problem with the reliability of these logic boards, so that subsequent failure is a hit or miss thing? Or does their failure result from other factors so that an ibook that has one logic board fail may have an underlying cause that will lead to subsequent failures? Is this computer worth saving?

I see on the forums that logic board failure is a problem with ibooks and that many people replace one only to have it fail.Although there have been some failures the absolute majority of iBook G4 users have not had any type of logic board failure.
Is there a generic problem with the reliability of these logic boards...
No
Is this computer worth saving?
You will need to look at the cost of replacing the logic board versus buying a new/refurbished iBook G4 or new MacBook.

Logic board replacement - do I do it or not?

Hi,
The Logic Board of my iBook G4 14" 1.2 ghz recently died and is going to cost me almost £600 to make right!!!
No I didn't buy Applecare. Call me stupid but I expected Apple machines to be a cut above bog-standard PC machines and assumed it'd last me a while.
If I'd have known these issues before I made my purchase then I'd never have bought the machine - it's 2 years old for god's sake.
I digress.................
I've seen the posts on this board - multiple board replacements seem to be the norm, although by the looks of things the older ibooks seem to suffer the worst from this.
My question is should I expect another board failiure? The service centre is offering me a 3 month warranty on the replacement parts. If my ibook goes down after that with the same problem then I'd be seriously annoyed that I just didn't buy a new MacBook instead. I see I could get hold of their lowest-spec machine for a few hundred pounds more.
What do you guys think?
iBook Mac OS X (10.4.7) iBook G4 1.2ghz 14"

I've seen the posts on this board - multiple board replacements seem to be the norm, although by the looks of things the older ibooks seem to suffer the worst from this.
You'll have to keep in mind that this is a technical support forum specifically for people who are having problems. The topics here do NOT reflect the experience of the vast majority of iBook owners. Apple regularly sold 250,00 iBooks each quarter, so if "multiple board replacements" were the norm, there would be thousands upon thousands of posts here about an issue like that.
Apple did recognize a manufacturing defect in the G3 Dual USB iBooks and created a logic board replacement program for those that failed due to that specific defect. But, it was only for those that did fail and not all of them failed.
Without knowing more about your need and use for your iBook, it will be difficult for us to determine the risk you face by paying for a replacement. There is currently a refurbished iBook 12" 1.33GHz /512DDR /40GB /Combo for £524.25 right now at the UK's "Special Deals" Web site. This computer would have the full Apple warranty and could take an AppleCare Protection Plan as well.
-doug

Any free logic board replacements in 2007?

I got my logic board replaced on my iBook G3 once before under the replacement program. Imagine my surprise when it died again.
I've read here in the forums how people have successfully lobbied for a logic board replacement past the 3 year window. Has anyone been successfully recently in doing this? I called Customer Relations and they told me there was no way I could get a replacement. Any tips on how to get this done?

Hi, and welcome to Apple Discussions.
The most recent report I've seen was this one, received last month from Europe.
You may want to try calling Apple again at (800) 767-2775 and ask for Customer Relations (NOT Customer Service--they can't help you) and ask them to please make an exception to the three-year limit in your case.
If the answer from Apple is absolutely, positively, "NO!" you may want to consider trying the shim fix suggested by John Sawyer in the Apple Discussions iBook G3 (Dual USB) Displays Forum:
[Y]ou can often fix this yourself by removing the iBook's bottom housing, and placing a shim of any sort, about 1mm to 1.5mm thick, onto the raised square on the bottom shield. I use a Scotch mounting square--you can get them in hardware stores and many grocery stores. When you reinstall the bottom case, it will press against this shim, which will press against the graphics chip, and may allow the chip to come into better contact with the logic board.
John Sawyer
CJS Macintosh Repair
Instructions for removing the lower case:
iFixit.com
If Apple doesn't come through, and the shim fix doesn't work (or you're leery of trying it), DT & T Computer Services in Fremont, California offers the cheapest repair I've found. They have a six-month warranty on the repair.
Once you get it fixed, try never to pick it up by the left front corner alone. Rumor has it that can contribute to logic board failure when the case flexes, causing the graphics chip to come loose from the logic board. If you're picking it up in your left hand (as I often do mine), pick it up in the center under the trackpad.
Good luck. Let us know how things go.

Logic board replacements: supply shortage!

I've seen a lot of threads on here encouraging anyone with a whining MBP to send it in for no-questions-asked logic board replacement, so I wanted to post a quick caveat...
My MBP has been in the repair queue at the Apple Store for a week and a half, and they're still waiting on shipments of logic boards; from what AppleCare can tell, it looks like supplies are hugely diminshed at this point, and the only stock of MPB logic boards is what the individual Apple Stores have on-hand.
Maybe I'm just unlucky, but chances are that if you're hoping for a one-day turnaround in a shiny yellow DHL box to stop the whine, you'll have to wait a bit longer...

My condition with regards to work isn't quite as bad as yours, however I did realize that as soon as I dropped the machine off I had forgotten to commit my last day and a half of work back to Subversion, so I've been just idly touching up things here and there as I don't want to waste a whole day and a half re-implementing something that's stuck on a 2.5" chunk of steel. sigh
Although, if there is a shortage, I'd better get cracking on re-doing that day and a half of work or I'm going to be even further behind on my projects. Thanks for the confirm.
My MBP is CTO, so I'm pretty much screwed on trying to get a replacement before the logic board comes in. I don't think I'll have lost any clients (I've been doing new stuff on my old PB) but I'm definitely not in a comfortable position wrt my existing work. Ah, the perils of computerization.
There is good news: I remember this happening back in the day with the problem-plagued old G3 iBooks, and many of those were just replaced with more recent boards as they became available. Maybe I'll get a 2.16 out of it.

We just had our logic board replaced on our G4 2005 model is this common?

I have done some looking and seems the older G3 and G4s had this problem so maybe ours was a rarity. Also in my research seems apple came up with a separate coverage so do we need this in addition to the applecare extended warrantee?

I have done some looking and seems the older G3 and
G4s had this problem so maybe ours was a rarity.
Also in my research seems apple came up with a
separate coverage so do we need this in addition to
the applecare extended warrantee?
Wow! Didn't know I would be bashed for being consise. It is a G4 ibook we bought it Oct. 2005, (this is b/c I noticed in other posts that the G4 ibook date back to 2002). Not sure how else to put it as it was in my post earlier, "we just had our logic board replaced on our G4 ibook (which is stated in the original at the bottom corner as the brilliant apple people have designed to keep these consise) 2005 model is this common," then in the message it goes on to say that I have found other posts and other sites that have people typing about having to have their logic boards replace/repaired 2-3 times, ie this example below.
RE: logic board
Posted: Nov 7, 2005 11:40 PM in response to: Douglas Oconnor by Ronda Wilson
Douglas,
Apple didn't knowingly sell faulty goods. Once the problem was identified, Apple stepped up to the plate with the iBook Logic Board Repair Extension Program (which is not a recall — they are being fixed when and if they fail, but have not been recalled), and your iBook still falls under the three-year plan.
If that is not satisfactory to you, please take the measures I outlined in my previous post to you.
Sorry to not be more specific in the first post, I figured since my search brought this issue up immediately someone out there would know about this.
And to the second response, no I don't have a clue the difference is, that is why I bought an apple, suppose to be easier for those of us who are computer challenged.

Signal hasn't worked properly since logic board replaced

My logic board went out a 6 weeks ago, and I had it and the topcase replaced. Since getting those two components replaced, I no longer can pick up wireless signals in public places. I say "public" because at home, I can pick up the signal, but that's because my desk sits atop the base unit. So it's only when I'm out do I notice the problem.
I thought maybe it might be the logic board again, or the airport card, so I had the technician replace it again. So I have had the logic board replaced TWICE and had a new airport card installed. Same deal. It's software related from what I can tell.
Here's one symptom that is strange. As time progresses, it gets worse. So I started at 3 bars this morning, and finally the signal disappeared. I rebooted, and it came back, but at 3 bars. What is causing this? Do I need to wipe clean the HD and just reinstall OSX? I backed up everything last night preparing to do that, but wanted some info. I also have applecare, but right now, work's so chaotic I can't afford to be away from the computer.
PLEASE HELP!

You wrote:
"I doubt that reinstalling OS X would help here. From the following reference you can see that the iBook G4 uses an AirPort Extreme card. (ref: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26277) Most likely this card was removed in order for the technician to replace the logic board. The card also has an antenna cable attachment.
I suspect that this cable is not fully attached, and may be worth having a look at to verify. (ref: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=108039) "
You may be right, but this is hard to believe in some respects. When I took it in the first time, the Airport Extreme card was not changed out, and the problem immediately materialized after teh logic board was replaced. I took it back a second time, and the logic board was re-replaced. I also requested a new Airport extreme card. That too was replaced. The antenna was also checked. None of this appears to have made a difference.

IBook logic board - Apple service - kinda long, sorry

I am a converted PC user who got my iBook in September 2002 because, frankly, I was tired of dealing with the poor performance, terrible service, and general glitchiness of my old pc's. So a few of my friends encouraged me to try out a Mac. So I did and I fell in love with how it just seemed to work!
I've had my iBook for just over 3 years, and have had a good amount of problems. It occasionally would boot up to the sad face and I'd have to go through the whole process of reinstalling the OS while on the phone with AppleCare. This past summer, I sent the computer back to Apple because it locked up constantly and the hard drive started clicking. After about a month of sending it back and forth, they finally acknowledged that there was a problem with the hard drive (as if the loud clicking wasn't enough) and replaced it.
Ever since then, things have been ok, but glitchy. The screen would freeze, when you opened the notebook up, it would be on a blank screen, etc. Then earlier this week, it started showing lines through the screen, and it would lock up. Upon restart, it would restart with a blank screen. I thought it was a gonner.
So I looked online to try to diagnose my symptoms, and low and behold, I think I know what's wrong. The iBook logic board description on http://www.apple.com/support/ibook/faq/ explained my sympoms exactly. So I spent an hour on the phone with customer service yesterday trying to figure out if they'll fix this. And alas, they said despite the fact that the logic board may have been failing after the July repair and despite that I've just barely exceeded the 3 year limitation for the logic board repair, they will not repair this unless I pay for it. The quote he gave me was almost enough to buy another computer.
So here I am, a guy who came to Apple for a quality product, Apple acknowledges that the logic board they installed in my computer is less than top-quality, but they refuse to replace this inferior component because of an arbitrary 90 day warranty on repairs performed in 90 days and an arbitrary 3 year from purchase date repair on the logic board.
I'm the first one to admit, they don't HAVE to do anything. I just think it's a sad state of affairs when a company that relies so heavily on a fan base, would slap a newly converted fan in the face on his maiden voyage with a Mac. I expected more from this company. If I wanted cheap junk parts in my laptop that would've only lasted 3 years, I would've bought a PC. The PC is cheaper anyway.
Now I sit with a useless shell of a computer at home and try to decide what I want to replace it with. I have to say, I love OS X, I love the simplicity, I love the security, but I'm going to find it very hard to justify it to myself and my wife to buy another Mac. I think this converted PC guy is headed back to a PC where at least you get what you pay for.
Nick Golden
G3 iBook Mac OS X (10.2.x)

Hi, Nick. Welcome to Apple Discussions.
Are you willing to try again? Call Apple again, and this time, ask for Customer Relations. Tell them your story and ask them to make an exception to the three-year rule in your case.
Customer Relations likes Switchers, and they are the ones with the authority to make an exception to the rule.
No guarantees, but they just might do it for you, especially if you plead with them, "Please, please, don't send me back to Windows!"
Usually, I advise people not to threaten to go to Windows, because why should they help you if they think they've lost you as a customer? But, in your case, it's a little different.
Personally, I would have to have about four Macs in a row go belly up before I would look to Windows, and, even then, I might just give up computers all together and rely on pencil and paper if I had to deal with Windows.
Good luck. Let us know how things go.

3rd Logic Board replacement: will Apple give me a new computer?

Hello Ronda and Friends,
I am a professional guidebook and magazine writer, currently traveling around the world with an iBook which loves to crash its logic board right before book deadlines, usually very far from Mac centers. The first time was in Belize (had to ship it back to US at great expense), the second time in Pakistan (got logic board replaced 6 weeks later in Delhi, this was only 5 months ago), and the third, the day before yesterday, here in Chiang Mai, Thailand, which thankfully has a Mac repair center.
I've got 3 months left on Applecare and plan on replacing the logic board again, though I have 6 months left on this current trip, which will soon take me very far from Mac repair shops (i.e. Africa). I am constantly working on deadlines, and if this third board craps out in Kenya, I'll be pretty screwed.
After reading a few archived logic board sob stories here, some seemed to suggest that there are cases where Apple would grant a new model iBook, if that person's livelihood depended on it which mine certainly does.
Please advise as soon as possible so I know whether to go ahead with the logic board replacement here. Or let me know who I should contact in customer relations.
Thank you -- and if you are interested in my travels, go to
http://blog.stonegrooves.net
Joshua Berman
Dual USB iBook Mac OS X (10.3.3) 3rd logic board crash

Hi, Joshua. Welcome to Apple Discussions. Again isn't it, as I seem to remember your logic board failure in Pakistan, yes?
It seems to be the usual thing that Apple wants three attempts at repair (which means four logic board failures) before considering a replacement. However, nothing ventured, nothing gained. Especially since your livelihood depends on a working iBook, I'd advise you to ask for a replacement.
Apple Phone Contacts includes a number for Thailand:
http://www.apple.com/contact/phone_contacts.html
But do not mess around with Customer Service. Ask for Customer Relations. Tell them that your iBook has a habit of losing its logic board at the most inopportune times and in the most inopportune places. Be prepared to give them dates and details of repairs, and stress how vital your iBook is to your livelihood and that lost computer time is lost income. Tell them you need a computer you can count on, and your iBook, much as you love it, just isn't getting the job done for you. Then ask for a replacement.
If Thailand won't do it for you, I think you should invest a call to the U.S. Again, don't settle for Customer Support; immediately ask for Customer Relations and give them the same sad story and ask for a replacement. It won't hurt to emphasize the fact that you have AppleCare.
Failure in Africa equals a trip to the Netherlands for repair (at least from what I've read here). One person in Africa didn't have his iBook for months. You really need a dependable iBook to take to Africa. Tell them so.
Good luck.

Has the NVidia GeForce 8600M GT logic board replacement program been extended by a year?

I have heard that the logic board replacement program for MacBooks Pro with the failed NVidia 8600M GT chip has been extended from 3 to 4 years after the date of original purchase. However, a local AASP had no knowledge of such an extension. Is this true? I have a MacBook Pro 17" 2.6GHz that was purchased in 2008.

eww wrote:
when you took it in, it had been more than four years since your 2007 machine was originally sold, that's why you got the response you did.
Actually it was within the time frame, it felt like it was just last month, when it was like several months ago.
Just dragged the 15" recently out to see to use it for testing *cough* and low and behold it's worthless now.
The problem I have is I told them at the Genius Bar the video was going, but couldn't prove it as it was very rare it occured.
But they ran their little tests and gave me a load of crap, now it's dead. $2500 down the toilet.
I know what did it, Lion. Lion was the cause, it ran like a fine machine under Snow, fscking Lion, I'm glad I didn't put that POS on my new 17"
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13727_7-20091204-263/graphics-issues-plaguing-os-x- 10.7-lion-upgrades/
My word the OP, don't let the Genius Bar screw you with the same crap they gave me, call corporate and raise ****!

Macbook Pro Mid-2012 Logic Board replacement, Apple Dragging feet?

First some background:
I have a macbook pro 13" Mid-2012 non retina covered under applecare until Jan. 2016. Starting in late march, i had noticed some performance issues but never took it in as the issue would subside within a day or two. Going into the final two week of my college semester, the macbook started freezing and tacking almost 5 minutes to boot. Suddenly it would take 5 tries just to get it to boot. due to this, i had been unable to get the time machine backup to work as it would freeze for 12 hours on average.
So thenI took my macbook pro into the local authorized apple service center (on April 29th) as i suddenly got 'open error 5: input output error' errors and my mbp wouldnt boot at all. When i spoke to the servicer, he and I agreed that at minimum the hard drive was failing. The servicer made a time machine backup of the data on the hdd and got the backup on my external drive. He asked to keep the external drive as it has a partition that is a USB install disk of the latest Mavericks. Soon after he got the data backed up, the hard drive showed signs of failure to happen soon. So we agreedto have him replace the hdd. He hoped to have my macbook to me by May 5th. Well on May 5th, i got a call from him that with the replacement hard drive, the computer still had similar issues and was able to track it down to logic board issues. We agreed that since he had the macbook pro already and since it was applecare covered, we should go ahead and replace the logic board. Anyways, he ordered a new logic board from apple last monday (May 5th, 2014). I called on Thursday for an update and the servicer was frustrated with Apple that something is going on and he hasnt received the part as Apple usually gets him these parts within 1-2 days of request.He said he will call me once Apple gets him the part as he will get on the repair once the part comes in. He hasnt called me back yet.
This is rather frustrating for me as my macbook had all my college files on it and this problem happened right before college finals (i technically lost about 2 months worth of web design files and class files) where much of what needed for finals was on that computer. if he could have gotten it back by the 7th as he'd hoped, i would have been fine. Instead, i was forced to go back to my PC laptop and try recreating some of the files that were made by mac only applications into something similar on windows. i was unable to recover the web design files as they were on the macbook and i couldnt remember right off which folder it was in. So i had to scrape together things to be able to submit for my finals so i wouldnt totally bomb the course. My web design instructor understood how frustrated I got from losing all that work and having to settle for a final design that just met the requirments rather than the one on the mac that was well past it.
He is not sure whats going on as the last time he ordered a logic board for the same model, he had it by the end of business the next day. He is apoligizing for everything . I am not frustrated with him, rather I am frustrated with Apple as they had recommended me to take it in ASAP, yet they are seemingly dragging thier feet on getting him the parts.
On top of this, I am helping a neighbor modernize her business website, and am doing a project with the state unemployement office to help them redo thier videos. Both of these are things i would always use my mac for as it is like 5x faster than my pc on this stuff. It's more than just an inconvience now. I need my mac badly as the PC is just not fast enough to do what i need in the itme i am given (which i why i switched to mac as my primary computer).
Is this common for Apple when it comes to logic board replacements for macbook pros or what?
Has anyone else had this issue?

Applecare was no help at all. I called and did the complaint. They confirmed that it is registered to me and everything but essetially told me that they cant give me answers as to what is taking so long. They knew a repair was in progress but wanted to set me up with an appointment at an apple store? (the nearest Apple retail store is Billings which is 240 miles away, or about 4 hours). i tell them its at the repair place and they go on to tell me they can send me a box to mail it in and have it reapir by them.. They are trying to shift the blame to the AASP and his rep. But he said he has been trying with very few answers from Apple as well

After having the logic board replaced, Time Machine will no longer backup my computer to the same backup files as before.

After having the logic board replaced due to bad NVidia chip, my Time Machine will no longer backup my computer to the current backup. Is there a way to reset something to get Time Machine to continue to use the same backup files as before for this laptop?

As far as TM is concerned you have a new computer, so it will make a new backup. If you don't have the space for both backups then erase your backup drive before backing up the computer.

Grey restart and program crashes after logic board replacement?

Apologies for if a thread already exists for this, I had a look around and nothing seems to quite fit the problems I'm experiencing-
I recently got the logic board replaced on a 13-inch macbook pro, osx lion, 10.7.5. I got this done because of the failure of one of the usb ports and the centre row of typing keys.
however (although the keys and usb now work), after the replacement, I have started to experience problems that weren't present before. These include:
programs spontaneously crashing, examples being safari, itunes, and photoshop
the computer spontaneously going into the grey textured screen and restarting all programs, but seemingly not initiating a full shut-down and restart
itunes has deauthorised me and claims that there are already 5 computers authorised to the account. No new computers have been authorised during the repair time and attempts to deauthorise and reauthorise fail, this was not present before the repairs.
video playback on youtube and similar sites can sporadically cut out completely, either freezing or causing the entire video 'screen' to white out or vanish
playback of other moving graphics such as gifs often is jerky or replaced with transparent or white frames
I've updated all my software to the latest versions just in case it was simply that I wasn't up to date with something, but to no avail. Is this a common error with a solution, or am I going to have to get the logic board replaced again? I'm still within my three-year warranty, but I don't appreciate the concept that I brought in my machine to be fixed, and it came back even more broken.
(safari crashed during writing this, here is the crash report in case that helps)

There's a 90-day warranty on the repair.

Prompted to sign in to trial version of CS6 after logic board replaced

Hello. I purchased CS6 10 months ago and just had the logic board replaced on my iMac. Now, when I open Photoshop on that computer, I get a dialogue box "Sign in Required to use your trial version of Creative Suite 6 Design Standard". I did that, but I don't see a way to enter and validate my product installation code so that Adobe recognizes this as a legitamately purchased version. Any help is appreciated. Thank you.

Since sending the first message, I closed and reopened Photoshop and was prompted to either continue with the trial version or enter a valid license key. I did the latter, so hopefully I'm back in business.

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