G4 MDD Dual 1.25 - Aperture 2 - Do I need newer Video Card to run the app?

I am hoping someone can help steer me in the right direction. I spent all morning reading about Aperture 2, decided I must have it, downloaded the trial version and THEN found out my computer will not run it. When I try to install it, it says that I don't meet the minimum requirements but doesn't specify exactly what the problem is. The Aperture minimum requirements are confusing to me in that it says Power Mac G5 with Intel processor, BUT it says you can have a G4 Powerbook with a 1.25 GHz processor. My Powermac G4 has a 1.25 processor. Not sure if that is the problem or if it's my video card which is the standard ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. If I replace my video card will I be able to run Aperture 2? If so, which ones would be compatible with my older Mac? — Thanks, mark
I have pasted my specs below:
*Hardware Overview:*
Model Name: Power Mac G4
Model Identifier: PowerMac3,6
Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (3.2)
Processor Speed: 1.25 GHz
Number Of CPUs: 2
Memory: 2 GB
Bus Speed: 167 MHz
Boot ROM Version: 4.4.8f2
*ATI Radeon 9000 Pro:*
Chipset Model: ATY,RV250
Type: Display
Bus: AGP
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 128 MB
Vendor: ATI (0x1002)
Device ID: 0x4966
Revision ID: 0x0001
ROM Revision: 113-99703-127
Displays:
Apple Cinema Display:
Resolution: 1600 x 1000

Aperture 2 - Apple Store (U.S.)
Look down below at the:
Recommended Configuration
Does not look too good for you....
The ATI 9000 is pretty minimal...

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