G5 Dual 1.8 versus G5 Quad 2.5

I have a quite long and complex FCE project I am getting ready to go back to work on. I currently have a G5 Dual 1.8ghz and am considering getting a G5 Quad 2.5ghz instead. Currently there are some parts of my video which have many layers and filters and I can only move through it for editing very slowly, almost frame by frame at some times. My question is whether or not moving up to a G5 Quad 2.5 would possibly make a big difference or would probably only make a small difference. I know this is a very vague question but any suggestions or opinions would be more than welcome.

Processor vs processor, yes there would be more power in the Quad. But how much RAM memory do you have in your 1.8GHz vs the 2.5GHz? You can strangle both machines if there isn't enough RAM. Minimum 2GB, max 4GB if you are using FCE. Then there's the question of what hard drives you have in each machine - what interface, speed (rpm), cache (MB).

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