G5 Quad PCI-E SCSI cards available

Hello,
Are there any SCSI cards, beside ATTO, which could be used in a Powermac G5 with a pci-e bus. I googled some information about LSI Logic, but the information whether or not some of those cards would work in a dual-core G5 is still not clear to me. I would prefer to buy a used card, and perhaps there are some PC cards for the new PCIE bus that would work too. Thanks for any information you could provide.
best regards,
Markus
Powermac G5 quad Mac OS X (10.4.5)

Hello:
I needed a SCSI connection between my dual core 2.3 G5 and an Epson 1600 and Polaroid 4000 scanner. The SCSI card problem with PCIexpress is a headache. To bypass high costs of the cards, I tried a Ratoc firewire/ultra scsi converter (FR1SX) and find it works perfectly at joining my SCSI scanners to my G5 firewire. This has been a boon to eliminate PCI express SCSI cards and other problems.
best, nrb
G4 dual 500, G5 dual core 2.3 Mac OS X (10.4.5)

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I've recently purchased an Adaptec 2906 SCSI card for use in a G4 running OS X 10.1. My knowledge of SCSI is not the greatest so I have a few problems I hope someone could help me with.
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Sorry to hear the saga continues. I have just started rechecking the Adaptec help site, and the following is the response to a "not reported" (my search), or "device name not available" (Adaptec's phrasing):
Q: SCSI Disk Utilities in SCSI Select or BIOS scan reports 'device name not available' for all devices.
This information applies to the following product(s):
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A: The SCSI Host Adapter is not in a bus mastering PCI slot.
Move the SCSI Host Adapter to a different PCI slot.
The SCSI Host Adapter has an IRQ conflict with another device in the system. The resources for the PCI SCSI Host Adapter are assigned by the motherboards CMOS setup. Double check with your computer manufacturer or motherboard manual for setting up resources for PCI slots.
So, though I will continue the search, I need some more information from you.
What, precisely, is your model and cpu?
What other PCI devices do you have installed (if any)?
Also, in spite of the fact that the card is not reporting (though detected), as far as testing function goes, please attempt connection of one of your SCSI devices. Please read the following:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=58245
Make note of the ID configuration.
Be sure to properly terminate your device.
Connect only with system "off". (SCSI device power off as well).
After connected, turn "on" the SCSI device BEFORE powering up the computer.
After you get back with me regarding your Mac's vital stat's, I can then check for more system specific information.
One last note- In my G4 Sawtooth and G4 Gigabit Ethernet, the SCSI card is in slot "D"- the PCI slot closest to the internal hard drives.
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japamac wrote:
Any and all cards that are currently installed in you G4 will remain with the G4- none will work in the Quad.
Thanks for the info, now I know from both you and BDAqua that they won't even fit.
japamac wrote:
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Actually, two scanners. A film scanner and, most importantly, an Epson Expression 836XL Tabloid transparency scanner. Currently I'm running each of them from a separate SCSI card, and they work flawlessly.
I had acquired a SCSI-to-USB adapter by Microtech that I used with a Jazz drive attached to a G3 beige tower upgraded to G4. I'll have to see if that still works.
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