G5 - Tiger and Classic

Will a G5 desktop run the Classic environment under Tiger?

Hi, Frogford -
That machine came with a model-specific version of OS 9.2.2, probably on a separate install disk. That is the only source that machine can use to install OS 9 (Classic).
It is not necessary to partition the hard drive in order to install Classic (OS 9) - the two OS's are designed to cohabit the same volume without conflict.
Many folk do partition their drives so that OS 9 and OSX are separated. The bad news is, in order to do that you will need to partition the drive, which erases everything on it; this means it is necessary to back up all data you don't want to lose before partitioning it.
In either case, in order to install OS 9 on the drive OS 9 drivers must be present. If you have not reformatted the drive since you got the machine, then the drive should have OS 9 drivers on it. If it has been reformatted, and the option in OSX's Disk Utility to install OS 9 drivers was not selected, then it may not have those drivers. This Apple KBase article addresses that situation -
Article #106849 - Disk Is Available in Mac OS X But Not in Mac OS 9

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HP 7210 running correctly with Tiger and Classic ?

I would like to buy a new printer which would be running
perfectly under Tiger and Classic.
Did you test this one with success?
I'm asking this question because:
- The HP web server isn't sufficiently clear about this
point.
- The technical persons I got on the phone at HP hotline
were worse.
Could you advise me a color printer (with scanner and
copier) which is running without a problem on:
- Panther,
- Tiger,
- Classic on Tiger?
dan

Classic printing is a mixed bag. I do know Cannon's website actually lists certain printers as compatible with Classic. I haven't seen such specifications in any other manufacturer's website. I might add though, some printers can be made Classic compatible with these articles' info:
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=300849
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=Mac/10.4/en/mh660.html
I suggest getting the printer from a place with a liberal return policy so if neither of these work, you can try another printer.
What program do you need that you don't have to be Mac OS X native? Perhaps I can recommend an alternative which is.

How do I do a Clean install of Tiger and Classic?

My G4 came with Jaguar. OS 9 was part of the complete installation, that you could install or choose not to install. My computer has been having a lot of issues lately and I think that a clean install would be a good idea, especially, since I used an upgrade to install Panther and then installed Tiger on top of Panther. I want to install classic and Tiger. How do I do this properly? Thanks

I plan to back up my personal files and any
downloaded software I have.
Amazing that. You've told us that numerous times, but
you've failed to provide us with information on
HOW you're going to do this. That is, please
explain WHAT you're using for the backup and
WHERE you're planning on using to store the
backup.
All Power Macs come with the capability of burning CD's today. Mine can also burn DVD's, so backing up MY files is NOT a problem. I just can't clone my whole drive. Now, I'm not sure how this is pertinent in answering my question about how to properly do a clean install of Tiger and be able to install Classic. My son however, just told me he thinks that all I need to do is to clean-install Tiger. Then, insert the installation CD with classic on it that came with my computer. Find the invisible file, which is a disk image and drag the contents of the disk image to my computer. If anyone can tell me if this is correct, I would appreciate it.

Installing Tiger and classic on an external drive

I'm trying to install Tiger so I can run classic on an external drive to play the one or two games that are still not compatible with X. When I boot my Tiger install DVD on my Powerbook G4, it goes in to Open Firmware.
Any suggestions??

Well...I posted here cause I have leopard on the machine, and thought it was related.
anyhow..I have a Powerbook G4 1.5 Ghz.
I thought for sure I had booted from the Tiger retail DVD before. I guess i'll need to look for my Powerbook discs (wish me luck).

Need a printer for both Tiger and Classic

I posted a question before (July 13) about trying to get my HP psc 1315 All-in-One to print from Classic applications when running Classic in OS 10.4.7 on my new pre-pentium G5. Now I just want to know if anyone out there knows if there is any All-in-One unit that I can buy that will print in both Classic and Tiger.
The problem seems to be that the new Mac is emulating OS 9.2 rather than just running 9.2 as a background system. Because of that, printer drivers will not mount in Classic -- at least that's what HP and Epson and Apple all tell me.
So if anyone can tell me of a reasonably priced All-in-One that will do what I want, I'd be extremely grateful.
S/R
G5 Mac OS X (10.4.7) Pre-pentium so it supports Classic

If you don't want to buy any more hardware and have a printer connected to a desk top or laptop computer you could try printjinni. You would need to share the printer to make it available to the app (locate the printer in printers & faxes right click the printer and select share from the content menu)

Tiger and Classic

I am thinking of upgrading my iMac G4 from OS10.2.8 to Tiger. Can anyone tell me if I will have problems using Classic?

I am thinking of upgrading my iMac G4 from OS10.2.8
to Tiger. Can anyone tell me if I will have problems
using Classic?
That would depend on what you're doing. Some hardware and software have no problems. Other items crash and burn.

How to Install Tiger and keep Classic?

I have a Powermac G4 Dual Processor with 10.2.8 and Classic.
I want to install Tiger, but keep Classic too.
Should I do an Archive and install?
Will it wipe out my Classic installation?
(I have a LaCie 250GB drive to do a backup onto first.)
Thanks
G4 dual processor Mac OS X (10.2.x) Power Mac G4 Dual Processors

Hi motek,
make sure you buy the retail full install DVD (black)! Then do a simple upgrade following this procedure: 10.4 Tiger Upgrade: Decision tree+checklist.
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Can I have Tiger enclosing classic on an external drive

I'm on Snow Leopard 10.6.3 on a late 2009 Mac Mini with an external LaCie drive to which I back up my home folder each night (don't use time machine). I moved up from a G4 mac mini which had Classic as well as Tiger on it.
Would it be possible if I cloned my Tiger including Classic system from my old G4 mini to a separate partition on this current LaCie disk, for this partition to show up as a possible alternate startup disk in my System Preferences> Startup Disk when using my present Intel machine? I know Classic can't work under Intel, but wonder if the System Preferences here would allow me to boot into my external disk partition on Tiger/ Classic restarting.
Why I would like to try this is simply that although I bought a new scanner and photoshop elements 8 to work with Snow Leopard, and it does, I had an old scanner and Photoshop 6 working out of Classic on my previous mini and it just worked better, gave me more options, than the new setup. So I miss using it on my monitor, though I can still do so on my G4 laptop.

You can however use SheepShaver (http://sheepshaver.cebix.net/) to run MacOS 7.5.2 thru 9.0.4 in emulation on an Intel Mac... Its not a perfect solution but it does work for many apps (I've got Sheepshaver with OS8.6 and Photoshop 6 working on my Intel iMac)...

Mac-mini, Tiger, and OS9

I currently am running a G3/350 (blue and white) and want to upgrade to a Mac Mini (this will be a secondary computer - main one is an iMac G5). The problem is that the Apple store says the new Mini's ship with Tiger only. I have some software that runs only on OS9 that can't be upgraded to OSX.
So, if I get the Mini, can I load OS9 from Panther undeneath Tiger and continue running my exisitng software?

Personally, I have never encountered a machine specific copy of OS X.
The new line of iBook G4s are shipping with a machine-specific version of Mac OS X 10.4.2 (build 8D37). Another copy of Mac OS X 10.4.2 (the retail version is build 8C46) from any other computer will not boot them.
New (legal) copies of OS 9 can still be had all over the web.
Why would anyone need to get another copy of Mac OS 9 besides the copy that came with their computer? Every computer that Apple makes is still shipping with a copy of Mac OS 9. I suppose, if you've lost your original install disk(s), then you might need to do a search. AppleCare Support can get you a replacement set. If your Mac is out of warranty, you may be charged though.
If your computer shipped with a copy of Mac OS X up to version 10.1.5, your computer would have come with a separate Mac OS 9 install CD. These installs are almost all machine-specific.
If your computer shipped with Mac OS X 10.2 or later, you will have to install Mac OS 9 for "Classic" support from your install/restore disks whether or nor you computer can actually boot into OS 9.
The Mac mini and all the other Macs currently being shipped do not come with Mac OS 9 for Classic support installed by default. However, you can install it from your install/restore DVD.
-Doug

Installing/Using Tiger with Classic

Hello:
I would like to know how to install Tiger and still keep Classic on my iMac. I currently have 35.55 GB available.
I would also like to know how to use Tiger & Classic together
(switch back & forth) on the same iMac.
Thank you.

Hi Steve,
you just install Tiger alongside OS 9 and can choose between these through the "startup volume" preference pane.
1. You will have to exchange the Tiger install DVD for CDs unless you upgraded your iMac with a DVD-drive already: Media Exchange Program
2. Insert the install CD and reboot while holding down the c-key.
3. After the installer has started and you selected your language, go to the menu and open "Disk utility". Once there select "Repair OS 9 permissions" from the menu.
4. Repair the disk
5. Quit disk utility and proceed with a normal install
6. After the restart Repair permissions!
7. Download and apply the Mac OS X Update 10.4.8 Combo PPC
8. Repair permissions before and after an update!
9. Run software update from the Apple menu and apply all remaining updates.
Good luck!
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Leaping from 9.1 to 10.4.6 and classic won't start

I cannot get 9.1 to get past the Welcome page in Classic mode on 10.4.6 (just installed). I can boot 9.1 on its own. Can I install 9.0 onto the machine and upgrade to 9.2? Is 320 mgs of ram sufficient to run classic on 10.4?

Re: installation of Tiger on a G4 running OS 9.1
I installed Tiger on a G4 running OS 9.1. Even though my system folder contains "Classic" and "Classic Support," I now find that I cannot bring in any of my old OS 9.1 files. When I attempt to bring in 9.1 files, I get a panel stating:
"You have Mac OS 9.1 installed. It's recommended that you upgrade to OS 9.2."
After I click on "OK," I view a "Mac OS 9 startup window" with a thermometer showing the progress by a blue line. The blue line grows to about 1 mm of its total 78 mm maximum, but shows no progress beyond 1 mm, even after an hour or so.
I assume that IF my system folder contained OS 9.2 I would be able to download my OS 9 files.
MY ATTEMPTS TO UPGRADE TO OS 9.2 HAVE THUS FAR FAILED. I have downloaded (for free):
OS 9.2.1 at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120030 (82 MB),
and OS 9.2.2 at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=75186 (21.3 MB).
The icons for these updates now appear on my desktop.
However, clicking on the icons brings up INSTALLER icons. Clicking on the installer icons results in the panel described above with its frozen thermometer.
I described the above problem over the telephone to an Apple consultant. He thought that my hard-drive was probably defective and that I should:
a. save vital stuff on the disk,
b. reinitialize the disk, and
c. reinstall the saved stuff plus OS 10.4.6.
Unfortunately all this failed to change the behavior indicated above. I still can't access my OS 9 files.
I should greatly appreciate receiving any suggestions.
rrhake2

Tiger with classic(yeah i know)

Hi! I have Tiger and i want to play with Warcraft II and it says when i want to install it that "Classic doesn't found any system file Mac OS 9 on the start drive to use" but i know that my friend have warcraft 2, and with its Tiger he had Mac OS 9.What can i do?is it a fabrication default?Is there a place where i can download it?
iMac G5 Mac OS X (10.4.3)

Use the instructions in this article to install Classic onto your machine.
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So lately I decided I was tired of Tiger, and decided I would upgrade to Leopard. Well I made the mistake of erasing the hard drive before I made sure it would work. Well now like the installer was before it failed. And now when I boot it just won't work

So lately I decided I was tired of Tiger, and decided I would upgrade to Leopard. Well I made the mistake of erasing the hard drive before I made sure it would work. Well now like the installer was before it failed. And now when I boot I get the normal finder/question mark flashing folder. I also found a power Mac g4 that needs a new operating system. It's running 9.2. It's going to my grandma as a gift. I really need help.

I think you'll need to find a Retail 10.5 Disc.
Leopard requirements/10.5.x...
    * Mac computer with an Intel, PowerPC G5, or PowerPC G4 (867MHz or faster) processor
minimum system requirements
    * 512MB of memory (I say 1.5GB for PPC at least, 2-3GB minimum for IntelMacs)
    * DVD drive for installation
    * 9GB of available disk space (I say 30GB at least)
Classic/OS9 Apps no longer supported.
Trouble is Apple no longer sells it, check eBay & such for the Retail version, not the Gray Discs...
http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=mac+os+x+leopard+retail+10.5
There are workarounds if the 867MHz CPU is the only hangup...
http://sourceforge.net/projects/leopardassist/
http://lowendmac.com/osx/leopard/unsupported.html
List of Applications Not Compatible with Leopard...
http://guides.macrumors.com/List:Applications_Not_Compatible_with_Leopard

Tiger and Epson Stylus Photo 870

I just upgraded to 10.4.11 from 10.3.9. My Epson Stylus Photo 870 (USB connected) was working fine under Panther. However, now with Tiger, I can't get it to print. It still works fine in Classic mode. Had the same problem with Tiger and my HP 1200 but, after reinstalling the HP software from the CD, that works fine now in Tiger. Tried reinstalling the Epson software also, but it still won't print in Tiger. What am I missing?

Thanks to all the advice I found in earlier posts. I downloaded and installed the Gimp drivers and everything works correctly now.

I downloaded hundreds of CDs to iTunes on my old computer and synced them to both my iPad and classic ipod. We purchased a MacBook air and I noticed the previously downloaded CDs were not in my library. How can I find them?

I Downloaded hundreds of CDs to iTunes on a previous laptop and synced them with my iPad and classic ipod. We recently purchased a MacBook Air, and I started downloading more CDs to iTunes. When I went to sync my iPod, it removed all my old music and only included the music that I had just downloaded. When I went to my iTunes library, the old music was missing. The old music is still showing up on my iPad. How do I get it back into the library, or do I have to download everything again onto the MacBook air?

rosefromlatrobe wrote:
I Downloaded hundreds of CDs to iTunes on a previous laptop and synced them with my iPad and classic ipod. We recently purchased a MacBook Air, and I started downloading more CDs to iTunes.
When I went to my iTunes library, the old music was missing.
You mean on the old computer, the music is missing?
Or on the new computer the old music that you transferred from old computer, is now missing?
Did you transfer the iTunes library from the old computer to the new computer?

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