G510 Ctrl Fn swap

I've recently bougt new G510 after years of using G550 and i found left Ctrl and Fn key swapped. The new location of Ctrl is pretty unconfortable for me, as I'm used to less stretching my fingers, and I use ctrl+keys a lot.
I googled and noticed that fn ctrl swap option is available only by BIOS update, and that such BIOS'es exist only for ThinkPad series. I flashed BIOS to version 3.07 for G-series, and no such option become available. Is there any solution, any BIOS that would work just like in ThinkPads?
Best regards,
Daniel

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Thanks for the link and for your reply. I saw that post before
I suggest this because a lot of people need this feature (not me).
If the G560 UEFI have the "Enable VT" option, so why not the simple option to swap 2 keyboard keys?
Cleo_Lenovo, Mark_Lenovo or JameZ can reply to if the know something.
Regards.
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