Games - why have boot camp?
I sometime wonder why Mac let us have boot camp.
I guess it must be for games and the occasional software product.
So why is it that a £1100+ imac and starter Pro Mac Xeon £1200+ has such poor graphics.
Stop…Mac are not for games
Stop…the IMac is not for professional us
Yes I have heard it all before,
The fact is a £600+ PC will play many games probably has a 7/8 thousand series card integrated.
So why do Mac really give us Bootcamp?
I love mine, I don’t deny it, but why, surely Bootcamp is aimed to entice Windows users?
Apple you kick the *** out of charging for design and often deliver short, so offer graphic cards that will make the world Mac, or at least make it possible to upgrade.
Please can you sort the graphics out so that the real mac Pro users can play games.
The best way for Apple to get the industry to make games for the Mac, is to make a games console, Image that?
Love’em but all that money is not comparable
I admit that Apple introduces the BootCamp Beta in 2006, it was the final nail in the PC-coffin for me, because I now could replace my PCs with Macs, which I had intended to do for quite some years.
But when you already have three PCs running under your desk, you don't want a fourth computer
Nowadays I found myself using Windows very seldom, since I had found OSX solutions for most programs I use.
And as for games, the last game I bought was Oblivion back when I had a PC.
But as already asked, the 8800GT not a good gaming card ? I think it is.
Have Fun
Stefan
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Hi folks
I have an iMac (27-inch, Mid 2010) (iMac11,3, with Boot ROM IM112.0057.B01).
I replaced the internal SuperDrive with an SSD, which is now my primary boot device:
iMac:/ michthom$ diskutil list
/dev/disk0
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *250.1 GB disk0
1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk0s1
2: Apple_HFS SSD 248.1 GB disk0s2
3: Apple_Boot Recovery HD 650.0 MB disk0s3
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Password:
gpt show: disk0: mediasize=250059350016; sectorsize=512; blocks=488397168
gpt show: disk0: PMBR at sector 0
gpt show: disk0: Pri GPT at sector 1
gpt show: disk0: Sec GPT at sector 488397167
start size index contents
0 1 PMBR
1 1 Pri GPT header
2 32 Pri GPT table
34 6
40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B
409640 484620800 2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
485030440 1269536 3 GPT part - 426F6F74-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
486299976 2097159
488397135 32 Sec GPT table
488397167 1 Sec GPT header
So far so good.
I want to use the original internal HDD both to run Windows in Boot Camp mode, and to have a partition for my bulk data that doesn't need to be on the SSD.
I reformatted the HDD as a single HFS+ partition, GUID partition table.
I used BCA to create a Windows USB boot device from the Windows 8.1 media after following the hacking in this link.
When the iMac restarted after creating the 250Gb Windows partition on the internal HDD, I got the "no boot device" screen.
I restarted holding Option/Alt and booted from EFI Boot on the USB stick. Windows installer started, at least. Serial number accepted, on to picking a location.
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So, the current state of the internal HDD must be wrong somehow, but I don't see how to fix it (confidently) and would like someone to point me in the right direction (please!)
iMac:/ michthom$ diskutil list
/dev/disk1
#: TYPE NAME SIZE IDENTIFIER
0: GUID_partition_scheme *1.0 TB disk1
1: EFI EFI 209.7 MB disk1s1
2: Apple_HFS Internal 751.9 GB disk1s2
3: Microsoft Basic Data BOOTCAMP 248.0 GB disk1s3
iMac:/ michthom$ sudo gpt -r -vv show disk1
gpt show: disk1: mediasize=1000204886016; sectorsize=512; blocks=1953525168
gpt show: disk1: Suspicious MBR at sector 0
gpt show: disk1: Pri GPT at sector 1
gpt show: disk1: Sec GPT at sector 1953525167
start size index contents
0 1 MBR
1 1 Pri GPT header
2 32 Pri GPT table
34 6
40 409600 1 GPT part - C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B
409640 1468478336 2 GPT part - 48465300-0000-11AA-AA11-00306543ECAC
1468887976 263256
1469151232 484372480 3 GPT part - EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7
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1953525135 32 Sec GPT table
1953525167 1 Sec GPT header
gdisk has this to say:
iMac:/ michthom$ sudo gdisk /dev/disk1
Password:
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their
partition table automatically reloaded!
Partition table scan:
MBR: hybrid
BSD: not present
APM: not present
GPT: present
Found valid GPT with hybrid MBR; using GPT.
Command (? for help): x
Expert command (? for help): o
Disk size is 1953525168 sectors (931.5 GiB)
MBR disk identifier: 0x4F5BB38B
MBR partitions:
Number Boot Start Sector End Sector Status Code
1 1 409639 primary 0xEE
2 409640 1468887975 primary 0xAF
3 1469151232 1953523711 primary 0x0B
Expert command (? for help): p
Disk /dev/disk1: 1953525168 sectors, 931.5 GiB
Logical sector size: 512 bytes
Disk identifier (GUID): 3E1D7EF9-F86E-4552-8F40-BE9754C3C73F
Partition table holds up to 128 entries
First usable sector is 34, last usable sector is 1953525134
Partitions will be aligned on 8-sector boundaries
Total free space is 264685 sectors (129.2 MiB)
Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name
1 40 409639 200.0 MiB EF00 EFI System Partition
2 409640 1468887975 700.2 GiB AF00 Internal
3 1469151232 1953523711 231.0 GiB 0700 BOOTCAMP
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I found that marking the first partition on the USB stick as Active made no difference - my only option was to boot from the "EFI boot" option at startup (when holding down the alt/option key).
So to get the Windows installer to behave, I used gdisk to write a new protective MBR before rebooting to the USB stick, as shown below.
With the protective MBR in place (rather than hybrid), the Windows installer was happy to reformat the chosen partition and the installation began.
I'll try to report back once all is installed and working, but once again I owe my sanity to the generosity and patience of strangers!
Mike
bash-3.2# gdisk /dev/disk0
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their
partition table automatically reloaded!
Partition table scan:
MBR: hybrid
BSD: not present
APM: not present
GPT: present
Found valid GPT with hybrid MBR; using GPT.
Command (? for help): x
Expert command (? for help): o
<snipped>
Number Boot Start Sector End Sector Status Code
1 1 409639 primary 0xEE
2 409640 1468887975 primary 0xAF
3 1469151232 1953523711 primary 0x0B
Expert command (? for help): p
<snipped>
Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name
1 40 409639 200.0 MiB EF00 EFI System Partition
2 409640 1468887975 700.2 GiB AF00 Internal
3 1469151232 1953523711 231.0 GiB 0700 BOOTCAMP
Expert command (? for help): v
No problems found. 264685 free sectors (129.2 MiB) available in 3
segments, the largest of which is 263256 (128.5 MiB) in size.
Expert command (? for help): x
<snipped>
n create a new protective MBR
<snipped>
Expert command (? for help): n
Expert command (? for help): w
Final checks complete. About to write GPT data. THIS WILL OVERWRITE EXISTING
PARTITIONS!!
Do you want to proceed? (Y/N): y
OK; writing new GUID partition table (GPT) to /dev/disk0.
Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their
partition table automatically reloaded!
Warning: The kernel may continue to use old or deleted partitions.
You should reboot or remove the drive.
The operation has completed successfully.
bash-3.2# gdisk /dev/disk0
GPT fdisk (gdisk) version 0.8.10
Warning: Devices opened with shared lock will not have their
partition table automatically reloaded!
Partition table scan:
MBR: protective
BSD: not present
APM: not present
GPT: present
Found valid GPT with protective MBR; using GPT.
Command (? for help): x
Expert command (? for help): o
Disk size is 1953525168 sectors (931.5 GiB)
MBR disk identifier: 0x00000000
MBR partitions:
Number Boot Start Sector End Sector Status Code
1 1 1953525167 primary 0xEE
Expert command (? for help): p
<snipped>
Number Start (sector) End (sector) Size Code Name
1 40 409639 200.0 MiB EF00 EFI System Partition
2 409640 1468887975 700.2 GiB AF00 Internal
3 1469151232 1953523711 231.0 GiB 0700 BOOTCAMP -
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When trying to play Battlefield Bad Company 2 game freezes.. PLEASE HELP!Sorry, this is probably the wrong part of the forum to ask this question (although it's possible somebody here might have an answer for you). I suggest you repost your question in the WIndows Software > Boot Camp section of the forums.
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I am considering moving to mac but I have a couple of PC games that I would like to continue using. These games are red alert 3, tomb raider anniversary and i would like to get sims 3.
How well will games play on the new 2.66GHz 24" iMac? or would I need a better computer?
Also will the mac version of sims 3 work well on it, or will this work better if i got the windows version and played it using boot camp.
Finally would it be advised I used XP instead of vista or would it still be possible to play these games using vista with boot camp.
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