Gaming PC or gaming G5?

Which could I possibly be happier with you think? I've eyed G5 for a while, seems like a very powerful machine although I've never actually used one.
I plan on playing mostly Blizzard games, no big deal to sacrafice games like CS:S.

I agree. A G5 would be an expensive gaming rig. If you get a G5, get it for another reason (like multimedia, graphics, OS X, no viruses, etc) and being able to game on it would just be a bonus. You can spec out a PC for gaming for less than you can get the G5. And as Edwin said, most PC games won't ever make it to the Mac side. Only the best sellers do - and usually with a long delay between releases.

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Z97 GAMING 9 AC - PCIE and the wi-fi module no longer detecting

Hi,
I 'm Overclocking enthusiast and recently decided to take to my hometown in Brazil using a platform products from MSI, to make disclosure of benchmark tests in social networks and in gaming blogs.
So i purchased a new system including the MSI Z97 GAMING 9 AC motherboard and MSI Gaming N770 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 4GB graphics card. After building the system I initially had problems with the graphics card not being detected and the wi-fi module (that hard to fit in the mobo) don't even appear in device manager. I already tried to dismount and remount the module on the motherboard with extreme care, no success. After some research I updated the bios to 1.5 and used the onboard graphics card to install windows 8.1, drivers etc. After windows, drivers etc were installed the graphics card and the wi-fi module still would not detect.
I have tried another graphics card in this system and it does not seem to work either. In bios it just always says that the PCIE slots are 'empty'.
So I have tried the following:
1. Cleared CMOS.
2. Updated BIOS.
3. Updated Chipset, drivers etc.
4. Tested the Graphics Card in other computers.
5. Used a different graphics card in this system.
6. Tried PCIE 2.0, 3.0 and auto.
7. Completely reformated and started from scratch.
So after many attempts I am disappointed with MSI and need some solution to my problem, since I saw that several customers who have purchased from MSI are the same product with exactly the same problem which possibly conclude that MSI has a duty to resolve these cases.
Full Specs:
•   EVGA SuperNOVA 1300G2 ATX12V/EPS12V 1300W 80Plus Gold Power Supply 120-G2-1300-XR
•   Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100i Liquid CPU Cooler - Extreme Performance CPU Cooling and Built-In
•   Intel Core i7 4790 LGA1150 CPU 3.6Ghz
•   Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB 2x8GB DDR3
•   2 x Kingston 120GB SSD 6Gbs
•   Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit OEM
•   MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC Motherboard
•   MSI Gaming N770 TF 4GD5/OC GeForce GTX 770 4GB 256-Bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

I have the exact same problem with my gaming 9 AC only the PCIe slot for gfx card worked initially. MSI support sent me a new WiFi adapter, it also didnt work. When I installed it, the PCIe slot would not identify my graphics card anymore. MSI support then advised me to return the board to the reseller, where it is now - they are checking it for defects before they do anything.
Ill keep you updated how they proceed from here. If there are any more problems I will just ask my reseller to downgrade me to a gaming 7, I can add a pcie wifi card on my own, and avoid the hassle.

Z97 GAMING 9 AC - PCIE no longer detecting

Hi,
So I recently purchased a new system including the MSI Z97 GAMING 9 AC motherboard and MSI R9 280X GAMING G3 graphics card. After building the system I initially had problems with the graphics card not being detected. After some research I updated the bios to 1.4 and used the onboard graphics card to install windows 8.1, drivers etc. After windows, drivers etc were installed the graphics card still would not detect until I went into the bios and changed the PCIE to 2.0 (instead of auto). This then used the 280x instead of onboard and allowed me to install the graphics card drivers. I switched the PCIE to 3.0 after it was working.
Initially everything was working but the next morning I had the same issue again: only the onboard graphics card was being used. I switched back to PCIE 2.0 and it worked again. Until the next morning: the 280x is no longer being detected at all in any PCIE slots or in PCIE auto, 2.0 or 3.0. I have ruled out a graphics card issue as the 280x works in other pcs. I have tried another graphics card in this system and it does not seem to work either. In bios it just always says that the PCIE slots are 'empty'.
So I have tried the following:
1. Cleared CMOS.
2. Updated BIOS.
3. Updated Chipset, drivers etc.
4. Tested the Graphics Card in other computers.
5. Used a different graphics card in this system.
6. Tried PCIE 2.0, 3.0 and auto.
7. Completely reformated and started from scratch.
Any suggestions as to why the PCIE slots seem to have stopped detecting?
Full Specs:
Corsair AX860i ATX Power Supply,80 PLUSPlatinum Full Modular
Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H100i Liquid CPU Cooler - Extreme Performance CPU Cooling and Built-In
Intel Core i7 4770K LGA1150 CPU 3.5Ghz 8Mb Cache Haswell
Corsair 16GB (2x8GB) DDR3 CMY16GX3M2A1600C9R 1600MHz Dimm, Unbuffered, 9-9-9-24, Vengeance Pro Red H
Samsung 250GB SSD 840 EVO SATA III 6Gbs 2.5 7mm 540MB/s/520MB/s
Microsoft Windows 8.1 Pro 64bit OEM
MSI Z97 Gaming 9 AC Motherboard
MSI Radeon R9 280X Gaming 3GB

Was this issue ever solved as im seeing the same issue.
When I first booted the machine all was well however when I came to reboot my machine for the first time it no longer sees I have a GPU and so switched to the Intel onboard 4600.
At first I assumed the GPU had come lose or some BIOS setting needed changing. BIOS is set to use PEG (PCI-E Graphics card device) so i reseated the card and rebooted. This didn't work.
I reset the BIOS CMOS and that fixed the issue, my machine booted using the graphics card again however as soon I rebooted windows again it lost the card switching back to the onboard.
According to the BIOS the PCI-E slot is empty. I swapped the card out for an older ATI 7870 but had the same problem. PCI-E slot is empty unless I clear the CMOS (I made no changes in the BIOS).
At this point it sounds like some kind of software issue I have updated my BIOS to the latest version (1.5) but that hasn't fixed the issue. Whenever I shutdown or restart it will lose sight of my card unless I clear the CMOS or power down at the wall.
SPEC:
Intel 4790k
Nvidia 970 GTX
MSI Z97i Gaming AC mini-itx
8GB 1866mhz Kingston
Corsair 600w PSU

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MSI GTX 780 "Gaming Mode" -Things go black

Hello,
I am new to the forums. I have registered because I am hoping someone can help me with a very frustrating situation. I have spent hours upon hours attempted to figure this out on my own to no avail. Although I am a new forum member, I am pleading for some guidance.
I just bought/installed a MSI GTX 780 graphics card. I have uninstalled my previous driver (clean uninstall) and installed the current driver. Everything seems to be just fine, except for one issue...
When I select "gaming mode" in the MSI Gaming App, my desktop goes black (my wallpaper disappears). If I have a Chrome browser window open, that goes black too. If I mouse over an area of that browser window, the window reveals itself in sections (as I mouse over them). Furthermore, my monitor seems to fade in and out slowly from it's typical brightness. It starts out dimmed and gradually returns to normal brightness, and the cycle repeats slowly.
My temps are just fine according to Corsair Link. When I observe the stats in Afterburner, everything appears to be running properly. Prior to reinstalling the GTX 780 driver, I was playing various games and everything (temps, GPU usage, etc) was running properly and well within their respective safe ranges.
System Specs:
Asus Z87 A motherboard
i7 4770k processor
MSI N780 GTX 780 graphics card
16 gb Corsair Vengeance RAM
128 GB SSD
Corsair H100i
Please help me if possible, I would very much appreciate it! The problem manifested once I installed the MSI gaming app. Once I was unable to fix it, I then did a uninstall/reinstall of my GTX 780 driver. The whole process was successful. However, once I reinstalled the MSI gaming app and and activated the "gaming mode" preset, the same issue returned... blackness. I can still see the windows task bar and my desktop shortcuts, but blackness everywhere else.
Thank you kindly for your time and consideration!
Mike

The gaming mode is just the normal boost behavior the card would run without the Gaming APP. Uninstall it and see if the card works fine under 3d load. If so it's some kind of software compatibility issue. Simply don't use the gaming APP then.

MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, sound from USB mouse?

Hi!
I have some issue from my new computer, see spec below.
For the information I have a MSI Z87-G45 motherboard.
I have some sound that occurs sometimes (specially during the first 2-5 minutes) when i move the mouse around.
It occurs as well sometimes when I been using the computer for a while, basically random just more frequently at the start-up.
It's hard to know from where the sound occurs, could be PSU but today I read something on another forum about the motherboard I'm using:
- Higher sound quality using USB, thanks to special adapted current power.
So i wounder if this can be the case? Is that the reason why i get this noise from inside the computer?
Is there some way to disabled this "feature" in BIOS?
Greetings
|Asus 24" LED VG248QE 144HZ (2st) | EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB PhysX CUDA | Intel Core i5-4670K | MSI Z87-G45 Gaming, Socket-1150 | Corsair SSD Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" | Fractal Design Define R4 Black Pearl | Crucial DDR3 BallistiX Tactical 16GB | Corsair TX 850W PSU | Noctua NH-U14S CPU Kylare | CM Storm QuickFire TK Keyboard Brown | Ace Laser Gaming Mouse EDGE 3200 | QPAD XXXL |

The sound sounds like the old mechanics hdd kinda.
It comes inside the computer, not the speakers.
My feelings is that it can be the PSU as well, just wanted to check this first, since it most often comes when i move my mouse.

Msi z97 gaming 5 bios update help

Hello I recently purchased the msi z97 gaming 5 motherboard. It was working fine it came with bios version 1.0 and I wanted to update it. I downloaded the latest 1.5 bios from msi website copied to usb flash drive and flashed it using mflash. Computer powers on but black screen wont do nothing. I cleared cmos and battery and still nothing so I am pretty sure its bricked. I am going to store to exchange it for another one but I want to be able to safely update the bios without bricking again. I usually dont update bios unless needed but i need at least 1.2 bios to fully support the devils canyon cpu. Can someone please point me in the right direction? I read about the usb flashing tool in forum but also read that bios+me need to be flashed and I don't know if that program is up to date and will flash both files? I really appreciate it if someone helped thanks in advance.

Also does anyone know if it is dangerous to update the bios with a 4690k devils canyon cpu since it is not officially supported until 1.2? Is that why my first bios flash was bricked? I would hate to go and borrow another cpu just to update the bios but if I have to I will. Sorry for all the questions but I need to get my bios updated and I will not update it until I am sure of all these things. Thanks to anyone who answers these questions.

Update Z97 Gaming 5 BIOS

Hi,
I recently have acquired this motherboard and come with BIOS v1.0 (build date: 08/2014)
My system specs are:
i5 4690k
msi z97 gaming 5
ATI radeon hd5750
HyperX Savage 16gb ram 1600Mhz
SSD 850 EVO 250Gb
HDD Samsung 750Gb
sometime the system is unstable (mainly when I'm downloading a file at max Mbs the CPU goes to 100%) so I'm think to update bios to the last version 1.9
I see the like referred MSI Forum HQ USB flashing tool. My first question is: Is this procedure different than the normal procedure using M-Flash?
I see that I can update BIOS on the site in this way:
1) Download last BIOS (7917v19.zip)
2) Put it on removable drive (with FAT32)
3) Restart PC going On the MSI Click BIOS 4
4) Load the downloaded BIOS using M-Flash utilities
Are there some steps that I missing? Is this procedure safe if I have all PC assembled with all piece (CPU, RAM, HDD, etc.)?
Best Regards
Vincenzo

Quote from: sorrentinov on 03-May-15, 17:11:25
Hi,
I've to download BIOS 1.0 form MSI site or Save it form BIOS in order to have exactly the previous?
I think the one from the site should be fine, won't do any harm to save the one you have either.
Quote from: sorrentinov
If something goes wrong is possible to reload the old Bios?
This depends on how wrong it went.
Quote from: sorrentinov
Moreover I have to disconnect something or can I flash with all PC assembled?
You can never be too safe, but you should be good with everything connected as long there is no OC, CPU or RAM.
Some BIOS instructions requite that the flash drive is recognized as removable, see instruction on MSI site.
Quote from: sorrentinov
The better way to update bios is using m-flash?
Some may say the forum tool is safer, I myself don't believe in magic, IMO they are equally unsafe, a spike in electricity and you may end with a brick.
Quote from: flobelix on 03-May-15, 23:00:24
If wanting to update to bios 1.9 there is no single need to download bios 1.0.
None at all?
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=255371.msg1467830#msg1467830

Z97 Gaming 5 BIOS update problem.

Hi. Firt of all i want to apologize for my bad english .
Yesterday i bought MB form subject and i want do update my bios ( curently ver 1.4 ). When i want flash under Windows ( Windows 8.1) program doent do anything, when i use M-Flash it stucks on 100% and also do anything and when i use MSI Forum HQ USB flashing tool after integry veryfy in wondows program just disappear. Someone please help.
Specs:
Board: MSI z97 GAMING 5
Bios: Version 1.4
VGA: MSI GTX 970 Gaming
PSU: Corsair RM850
Intel Core i5-4690K
MEM: Kingsotn HyperX 4x4GB 1600Mhz
SSD1: Samsung 830 128 GB
SSD2: Samsung 840 EVO 500 GB
HDD1: WD10EZEX 1TB
HDD2: Samsung SpinPoint F3 HD502HJ 500 GB
COOLER: Macho Rev. B
OC: NOT YET
OS: Windows 8.1 x64

Thx for reply
Quote from: Nichrome on 04-June-15, 16:00:37
However if you need BIOS update prior to have some RAM or GPU working fine (or other stuff), then maybe consider updating to 1.6 and then to 1.9 and finally to 1.B (1.11). I suggest using MFlash (files can be downloaded on MSI's product site, instructions should be included). For Forum Flash tool you need proper files provided (usually) by Svet or Flobelix.
Before attempting to flash, make sure your system is stable!
I downloaded BIOS 1,5 and 1,6 and in both cases i have same issue it stucks on 100% on M-Flash, after this I can normaly shut down pc and it work but witch 1.4 BIOS. I just want know whyi can;t
updtate.
Video from using Forum Flash Tool:

Flashing Z87-G45 GAMING bios

Hi I'm in need of new bios for my motherboard Z87-G45 GAMING current version is 1.A0 (out of the box) and latest ME drivers .
I will be using MSI Forum HQ USB flashing tool.
Windows 7 64 bit
Thx for all the help in advance.

Quote from: Chike on 24-March-15, 02:36:00
You do not need to update BIOS just because "it is the latest version", flashing BIOS is always a risk, do not flash unless you really need to, e.g. it resolves hardware compatibility issue that you have. If it works. don't fix it.
+1
But if you want, well, we can't stop you but advise you how to do it and how to not brick the board
With MFlash and Forum tool it's always different story.. both can flash it perfectly fine, but if you get a single byte error in a file or other thing that can corrupt something while flashing, either can brick it. Use what you prefer to use.

The Crew –Racing with Your Coolest MSI Gaming Motherboard and Graphics Card

Most gaming fans are crazy about racing games, and there is a new game title just launched to fulfill gamers’ dream. We want to share with you the experience from Taiwan user who assembles a rig with a brand new MSI Z97 Gaming 5 motherboard and 960 graphics card, along with a hardware and game (The Crew) benchmarks. You may find the original article from:
https://forum-tc.msi.com/index.php?topic=113352.0
The Crew - Launch Trailer
PC configuration:
CPU: Intel i5-4670K
RAM: Avexir DDR3-1600 8G*2
VGA: MSI GTX960 GAMING 2G
SSD: Kingston HyberX 3K SSD 240G
CPU Cooler: SilverStone AR01
The MSI Z97 Gaming 5 motherboard box
Overview of the motherboard: Black and Red color scheme, it’s also the favorite color combination from MSI’s user reservation.
The PCI-E slots and bandwidth are enough for a two-way SLI setting.
Killer Ethernet, outstanding performance on internet access, especially reduce the lag issue.
The new arrival MSI GTX960 GAMING 2G graphics card
New cooling design: ZeroFrozr
The dragon symbol on LED panel
With MSI Gaming series motherboard plus graphics card, you can enable a Gaming App to overclock CPU and GPU. There are 3 modes to choose.
6-month free trail of the XSplit game caster software, free bundled with MSI gaming motherboard and graphics card
Done with assembling, quiet nice color combination and clean cable arrangement.
An overview of the very gaming look system.
Some benchmark results before racing with The Crew.
CPU and GPU info on CPU-Z and GPU-Z applications:
3DMark Fire Strike score: 6441
3DMark Fire Strike Extreme score: 3384
3DMark Fire Strike Ultra score:1262
The excel performance proof the brand new 960 graphics card comes with good a high Cost/Performance Value.
Now, check out this test benchmark score of the renowned game “The Crew”.
The game presents an ultra-quality display, 60 Frames Per Second (FPS)
FPS: Average frames is at:
Frames: 3859 - Time: 76828ms - Avg: 50.229 - Min: 43 - Max: 56
The comments of the game for your reference:
There are many types of missions that can be chosen from the America’s map.
Street racing, high-speed collision, breakaway from police, sky jumps, zigzagging, etc… make the game quite dynamic.
Now, when it comes to multi-player matches, the performance has exceeded expectations. Perhaps, it is the killer Ethernet that’s working the magic. Thus, this game is highly recommended if you have the right rig.
The downside is that the display intricacy is not as refined as GTA V and in addition, the game FPS is limited at 60 FPS. However, the overall gaming flow and performance is better than good.
The user's comment for using MSI Gaming 5 motherboard and 960 graphics card:
(The following commends are translated from user’s article, does not represent the viewpoint of MSI) ^^
Recently, MSI GTX 960 just launched so the initial price tag is still adjustable.
According to the current product line, it seems like this GPU is going to replace 750Ti. So once all the stocks (750Ti) at the store empties, we are most likely to see a price drop on GTX960.
Once the price hits the sweet spot, it’s time to try out GTX960 SLI’s performance.
The CP value on MSI GTX960 and GAMING 5 MB is pretty high. But the XSplit software that comes with the product is a bit annoying since the authentication steps are divided into 2 parts to go through for using it.
Enough said, anyways, GAME ON!

NVIDIA 960 card + GAMING 5 motherboard = best bundle for budget gaming!
it would be nice to see more testing of hardware-demanding games!

Window pop-ups when gaming

I bought a Y50 gaming laptop recently and am having an issue I can't seem to stop. When I am in a game (Team Fortress 2) often the last app I used just pops up and I have to ALT tab back into the game. First it was the Lenovo assistant so I uninstalled it, now it is the news, it seems to be the last web-based app I used.
I can't for the life of me figure out what keys I am pressing to activate it because when it happens I am typically pressing the left mouse button and direction keys (W,A,S,D). Since I used WIn7 prior to this I am guessing WIn 8 has some wonderful function/shortcuts I am aware of that is causing this to happen.
Any insight would be appreciated as this is quite annoying.

Maybe you are just pressing certain key combinations or shortcuts randomly. Check in the synaptics software to disable the touchpad when an external mouse is plugged in.
That is the only thing I can think of right now.
Jonas
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K8N NEO4 Crashing during gaming

Hi all. I have built what I thought to be a decent gaming machine no more than a yr ago. I have been playin World of Warcraft and LOVE IT! I got the game in Dec 05 and played it for hours upon end in the begining. As of late however, I have been experiencing a lot of Lock ups and hangs with my system when gaming. At first I approached this being a graphics card issue. I contacted the Mfg and they were ready to submit a RMA for return and repair. Before I sent it in and had been without a Graphics board, i got a replacement for the time being (ATI Radeon X1300PRO 256 PCI E) When i installed that card my monitor would just flicker on and off!!! So now I'm starting to really wonder if it is the Video Card or the Mother Board??? I looked at updating the BIOS but all the update appears to do is show the logo completely during Post. If that's all....is that even worth trying? Am I off base here thinking that the Mother Board could be my issue?
NEED HELP TO GET BACK WITH GAMING!!!!
Thx in advance!

Quote from: barclay2829 on 25-July-06, 09:52:11
Hi all. I have built what I thought to be a decent gaming machine no more than a yr ago. I have been playin World of Warcraft and LOVE IT! I got the game in Dec 05 and played it for hours upon end in the begining. As of late however, I have been experiencing a lot of Lock ups and hangs with my system when gaming. At first I approached this being a graphics card issue. I contacted the Mfg and they were ready to submit a RMA for return and repair. Before I sent it in and had been without a Graphics board, i got a replacement for the time being (ATI Radeon X1300PRO 256 PCI E) When i installed that card my monitor would just flicker on and off!!! So now I'm starting to really wonder if it is the Video Card or the Mother Board??? I looked at updating the BIOS but all the update appears to do is show the logo completely during Post. If that's all....is that even worth trying? Am I off base here thinking that the Mother Board could be my issue?
NEED HELP TO GET BACK WITH GAMING!!!!
Thx in advance!
antec 500 watt. modular if you could.

PSU causing lock ups when gaming? K9A2 Platinum

I am having black screen and occasionally grey screen lock ups when Im playing games. It can happen within 10 minutes or up to an hour. I have to press the power button to restart and dont get any windows errors or blue screen. I have no issues when watching videos or just tooling around. My PSU is a OCZ600MXSP and Im thinking its not up to spec. I have everything running stock. Is it likely my PSU doesnt cut it or is the black/grey screen freeze thing an cpu/gpu overheating issue?

All of my drivers are up to date (I do use driver sweeper as well). It happens pretty much in all games, from BFBC2 and TF2 to some crappy kid game my son plays online (Wizard 101?). Im not sure what the temps are under load but at idle they are good (cant recall what exactly they were but were in the proper temp range). My monitor has just finally died as Im typing this on my laptop (bad caps on power board ) so Ill test the temps while gaming when I can hook it up to my big LCD.
Could the lock up with no blue screen/error report indicate a component overheating?

Problems with pacman applet, and advice on a gaming portfolio

Hi
I recently made a pacman applet, im having a few problems with it though, the first time the applet is run on a browser, the ghosts(represented by squares) often dont appear or if they do, they are stuck in walls, this never happens when i run offline on my computer. Is this because the very first time the applet is run, it doesnt load properly, but the second time some of the files are in the cache so it loads fully?
Also everytime i refresh the browser the applet dissapears and is replaced with a blank space and a cross in the top left hand corner, does anyone know the reason for this?
The applet can be found below, if you do decide to play it, please bear in mind what i have said, so it might not load correctly the first time, if this is the case please refresh, or close the broswer and reopen the link! Also you will need to click the applet for it to gain focus before you can move pacman - use the arrow keys the control pacman.
http://www.renaissance-designs.co.uk/Satwant/java/pacman/
Id also be very gratful for some advice - id like a change in career, ive always wanted to get into gaming, ive had some previous knowledge in java i made a programme that could generate its own poetry in java for my dissatation, but i still never had a huge amount of confidence, and so went into websites.
BUT now i have decided to take the leap back into programming and give it a go, which is why ive made this game.
I thought id make a portfolio and try and apply for a few gaming jobs. This applet took me two weeks to make and it was in my spare time, i am fully aware its not perfect, and it doesnt look great, but i would like to know what people think of it, also how many more games do you think i should make, before i apply for gaming jobs? Does anyone have any advice on what would make a good portfolio for a java gaming job?
Thanks alot, i look forward to what you think of the game, and your advice!
SSKenth

sskenth wrote:
Thanks for getting back to me with that information, i didnt know you could see that information with just a simple right click!
But im afraid that doesnt really help me solve the problem, im not sure what all of that information means! :SI have very little experience with applets, but I can tell you what I would do to debug this (forgive me if you already know this stuff).
Look at the stack trace you get in the Java Console that I posted earlier. Each line contains a method that was called from the method on the previous line. So, java.lang.Thread.run() called sun.applet.AppletPanel.run(), which called Room.init(), etc. Look at the topmost line whose method is something you wrote, not something in the standard Java libraries. In your case it looks like PaintSurface.java (specifically, line 22). Look at what line 22 of PaintSurface.java is doing, it's calling Thread.start(). If you check out the Javadoc for Thread.start(), it says IllegalThreadStateException gets thrown if you call start() on a thread that has already started. So that's your problem. Without looking at your code, I'd assume you want to stop your thread in your applet's destroy() override, and instead of reusing it, create a new one each time init() is called.
Ill try and look into, thanks again though, it gives me somthing to work with :D
Btw when you first ran the applet, did all the ghosts(3) load up correctly?Unfortunately, no. The first time I ran it, there was only 1 ghost (or maybe all 3 overlapping each other?) at the top of the screen, and they never moved. Refreshing once made the game play as I think you want it to. Refreshing a third time gave the dreaded red X.
...oh and just out of curiosity,,, did u have fun playing the game :DSure did.

HP Envy 15-j075nr - Issues with gaming performance (slow-motion gaming)

SPECS:
Display: 15.6" diagonal HD BrightView LED-backlit display (1366 x 768)
Memory: 8GB installed memory
Hard drive: 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with HP ProtectSmart Hard Drive Protection
Processor: AMD Elite Quad-Core A10-5750M Accelerated Processor
Operating system:Windows 8
Graphics card: AMD Radeon HD 8650G graphics with up to 4204MB total graphics memory
Running on the exact specs above, I'm playing games via Steam (Tomb Raider, Saints Row IV, Dishonored, etc) and have had to compromise video/display quality settings just to get the games to play correctly. Most games have an auto-detect feature for display and audio settings and in each instance the games are set to Ultra or High settings. But when I begin to the play the games with the default settings that games are extremely slow, though the graphics look great.
Given the specs above and the fact that the games auto detect at the highest or near to the highest settings, might I have an issue with my current system settings that I could tweak in order to get a higher quality gaming experience? I feel like these settings are definitely good enough to get at least HIGH display quality, but that has yet to work.

Hi @trickster878
I understand you are having performance issues with games on your notebook computer, but really notebook computers for the most part are not intended to be gaming machines. Their design focus is more to be light weight and portable while also providing the ability to run for two hours or more without a power connection when fully charged.
Many of the things that make for a good gaming machine are sacrificed in a notebook. All that being said, it is possible to play many games on notebooks, but rarely as well as it would work on a desktop computer.
It is likely that you can tweak the settings to get a compromise that is more playable, but it is often a robbing Peter to pay Paul situation. Something may have to be sacrificed.
You can take a look at these pages and see if anything helps.
Computer Locks Up or Freezes When Playing a Game
HP PCs - Improving System Performance without Adding Memory (Windows 8)
Otherwise, you would probably need to look at the video settings in each of the games you are trying to play. The settings will need to be customized for each of them, and you may have to look at the pages/forums for the individual game to see which setting may have to be changed internal to that game.
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