Gap between header and content in IE

Hello All
I subscribed to a post with this basic same question but I
never got a notification if it got answered or not
I all of a sudden have a gap between the header and content
on this site
http://www.michaelsondesign.com/guestVision/
- I am not sure why , it started when I added to the menu on the
left
Any ideas?
Thanks
Rob

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> Hello All
>
> I subscribed to a post with this basic same question but
I never got a
> notification if it got answered or not
>
> I all of a sudden have a gap between the header and
content on this site
>
http://www.michaelsondesign.com/guestVision/
- I am not sure why , it
> started
> when I added to the menu on the left
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rob
>
>

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