GarageBand output obstacle in 13"

I'd like to plug my guitar into the unified IO audio jack in the 13" MBP, but I've hit a problem. If audio is going in, I can't find a way to force audio out through the internal speakers. This seems like a design flaw, seeing as how it would appear to extend to other areas of the system. If there is a microphone (or similar device) plugged in, no sound can exist, period. Is there a way around this?
Update: There's a menu I didn't notice in the sound preference pane which allows me to choose whether the IO jack serves as audio in or out.
Message was edited by: Jake Simonds-Malamud

Hi Jake,
Mac OS X hasn't had an 'Audio Soft-Through' since the introduction of the Intel-based Macs (or at least it seems to me so...).
Have a look at LineIn from Rogue Amoeba http://www.rogueamoeba.com/freebies/
Hope it helps
Stefan

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