Garbage Mattes...RED Crosshairs???

I am trying to work on some garbage mattes and I am noticing a RED Crosshair when I am trying to adjust the clip. It's removing a giant chunk of the clip automatically when I simply click say Point 1 for example. I didnt even drag the marker yet and half the clip is gone. Even when I hold down the Apple key its still not allowing me to adjust the clip like I want to. Is some setting on that should be off?

When you use the garbage matte, each of the corners is represented by a tiny red cross on the canvas. These are probably the crosshairs you are talking about. In the "Filters" window you see Point 1, Point 2 etc.- and then to the right of each is a button with a cross. If you click that button, then the point will show up in the canvas as a red cross and you can move it. If you click in the canvas far from the red cross you've chosen, then you may get freaked out because it will make drastic changes on your matte. Try clicking on the "corners" buttons in the "Filters" window and you'll see the crosses highlighted one at a time. These are your matte edges or corners that you can drag to make whatever shape you need. Once you move them, even a little, you have to re-click the button to get them back. It took me a while to master moving the red crosses around, but once I figured it out - what a great thing the garbage matte is! I wish there was a 32 point garbage matte.
Also, to see the whole matte, you may need to shrink your window size in the canvas - do this by choosing 50% from the pulldown menu below the small oval button on the top left of your canvas.

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