GB vs. Logic with respect to overall sound quality

Are there any technical differences between GB 9 and Logic with respect to the format that sound files are stored in, that would affect sound quality? I know that on the 'best' setting in GB, sound files are stored at 24 bits--is this the same in Logic? Also, is there any ability to dither from 24 bits to 16, in either GB or Logic?

Meatyard wrote:
Thanks, this is hugely helpful. Would be good to know what kind of dithering algorithm GB uses and if it's as good as Logic's.
I don’t believe GB uses the POW-r algorithm.
When POW-r first came out, it was hardware only - several thousand dollars for a dedicated POW-r box. Then it was available in software, and then other companies could license it.
Because it's licensed tech, Apple pays for and markets its inclusion in Logic, but I'm not sure what would motivate them to include it in GB. Apple has its own in-house dithering algorithms that wouldn't cost them anything to include, and I would imagine the number of GB users who know what POW-r or any kind of dithering is, or care about the different flavors, is exceedingly small.
Given that GB is included in every new Mac, including POW-r for each and every one would be a substantial license for something almost none of the users would know or care about.

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