GE60 0ND-463UK and RAM question

I have bought myself the MSI GE60 0ND-463UK and would like to upgrade my laptop to 16gb (as apparantly the max is 16gb)
However I have found that the i7 3630QM supports 32GB of ram however, MSi site states the Max is 16GB and has only 2 slots but after a little searching seeing that my laptop has 4 slots (currently unable to open the back of my laptop so here I am)
I would like to confirm if my max is 16gb and has only 2 slots.
As CPU-Z states it has 4 slots and a quick search found a few sites talking about ge60 0nd having 4 slots for ram.
I'm currently ready to purchase 4x4gb as it's a lot cheaper than 2x8 and would like to be reassured before I purchase them.
RAM I'm planning to buy £95 for 4x4 or £115 for 2x8 - Kingston HyperX Plug in and Play DDR3 1600MHz CL9 8GB SODIMM Memory Module (Kit of 2)
So would like to confirm 4 slots so I save £20 as I'm really skint :P
Thanks.

it has 2 DIMM slots

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EC Version: 16GAEMS Ver4.04
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This problem is NEVER shown in the Windows 7 OS and any Linux Distributions.
Also, can you add any updates possible for BIOS and EC.
I will make a donation as soon as possible after your confirmation.
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its probably wifi driver related or something specified for win8
try different wifi drivers
I already tried many drivers from the MSI itself, Intel, even other Notebook Manufacturers, but still not working.
I have tested Windows 8 in my friend's notebook(DELL) that has similar Wireless Adapter and everything working fine without issues like mine, so that means Windows 8 is not the culprit.
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Yes, indeed the MSI download servers seems to be crapped out right now.
But i have a backup of wanted firmware at my PC,
im attach it here for you.
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wait the USB key to be prepared, then reboot your notebook.
go in BIOS setup, then set boot mode to legacy,
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Hello,
i just I just bought a few days ago the laptop MSI GE60 0nd/0nc and until now got few blue screens..
all of the blue screens have the same .
the stop errors is 0x000000D1 ..
Picture of one of the blue screens:
files and data of my blue screens:
dropbox.com/s/qftex61g2hsqkv1/Minidump.rar
I do not know why this is happening.
But until now I have tried several things to solve the problem that information I can provide:
When I bought the computer, the computer came without an operating system (Windows). it was only freeDOS.
I installed Windows 7 (the X17-24281.iso copy from here - official-windows-7-sp1-iso-image-downloads-t12325.html with Valid serial i have). Then the blue screen happened to me at the first time. the First blue screen was happened to me while I was trying to change the my partitions in my Hard Disk Through the "Create and format a hard disk partitions" in Windows 7.
I can say definitively - it happened on a clean Windows - Before I installed any drivers from my disc that came with the computer.
But the first blue screen not saved and documented. It is not included in the download, and it's not in the images.
I re-installed windows and it is deleted.
The other times it happened to me was after i have installed the drivers.
and this was happen not when i played games..
Most times it happened when i used the softwere 3ds max 2013.
The strange thing is that it did not happen and not even once in heavy game when the computer work most hard.
I played for hours the game Far Cry 3 on ULTRA settings and no blue screens at all..
this point is very strange.
not all of my blue screens happened While 3ds max 2013 running but most of them.
i downloaded the software "bluescreenview" and Every time i got a blue screen, i looked in that Software.
Most of the blue screens was Show me that the broblem is with the ntoskrnl.exe.
but by Search on Google - this info was not good enough for me because According to Google - this exe do Lots of general things.
Yesterday i got a new blue screen with the same Error Message - DRIVER_IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL
but this blue screen gave me more info About the problem -
According to "bluescreenview" i saw that there was Another file (with the ntoskrnl.exe) that Caused the problem.
that file is "netwsw00.sys" -
I did a Google search and it gave me much more information ..
The problem is with the intel wireless card.
After some searching, I came to a topic at Intel forum:
communities.intel.com/thread/33377?start=15&tstart=0
In this topic people have complained about this problem (Blue screen).
On the second page of the topic someone gave a link to an old driver for the intel wireless card.
he said that he Does not have that problem with this driver. the old driver version is 14.2.0.10.
so i installed this driver and after that i thought I solved the problem...
Because after that I did not get a blue screen for a long time ...
I turned on the 3ds max and for hours - laptop worked properly.
I did a lot in that time. I played far cry 3 and I used a lot on the computer.
but at the end - it happened again. While 3ds Max and Photoshop running.
This was a blue screen with the same message.
I do not know what to do.
Please help me!

Quote from: darkhawk on 13-May-13, 06:43:40
Ok, first off, the link you provided does NOT pertain to you at all. Your problem is pertaining a stop error. The problem at that link is related to the e22w8x64.sys which is completely different.
Are you overclocking the computer at all?
Are you 100% certain that the hard drive is NOT failing?
You are right.
But I'm sure that it is the Wii-fi.
Because the file netwsw00.sys related to the intel wireless card.
and i found a topic about BSOD with this file on intel forums and i tried the solution but it does not solve my problem.
i also installed these drivers:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=164835.msg1215981#msg1215981
for the killer network divice in case that the problam is with the killer network.
what i am doing is to search BSOD problems with the intel wireless card and just try the solutions even if those problams is not the same as my.. i just think that maybe one solution might would solve my problem.
In fact, I think I found someone's topic here with the same problem:
https://forum-en.msi.com/index.php?topic=168821.0
The solution there is to disable the 802.11n.. but i have more ideas and I want to try it and I would rather try anything because it's the last option for me.
By the frequency of these blue screens, the impression I get is that it's a case of instability.
These blue screens happen after activities related to intel wireless card.
For example - it happened after I turned of the wii-fi and then turned on through the S-Bur.
The last time it happened to me was when I tried to get into online mode in some game.
But because I can not make more blue screens by repeating the steps I did, it leads me to think that the problem is instability.
I tried to think what causes instability and that's all that came to mind:
* Heat
* memory leak in the intel wireless card or something similar
* Hardware problem in intel wireless card
So what I thought to do now is set that the intel wireless card will not work too hard.
And I think I found a place to set it but I'm not sure.
In Device Manager I pressed right button on the intel wireless card and then I clicked on "Properties".
in "Advanced" tab i found that these are the options I can change:
My goal is to change everything that might cause the card to work harder ..
so i thought to change "Transmit Power" and ""Roaming Aggressiveness"
Both of them were defined to "5. Highest".
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Msi ge60 0ND ,, after making update for firmare :(( !!

I've msi ge60 0nd .. and it's working correctly !
i'm making update 4 firmware ~~!!! without reason
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manuals in pdf for many models of computers. You may be able to get
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I was careful to use them for non-invasive troubleshooting only.
One older online source appears to have ftp:// links, but I was never
able to make them work. The site may not have valid content or could
be somehow blocked; so if you find such a site by searching for older
Apple Manuals online, it may not yield anything. Or it may be illegal.
Some of the low-end RAM chips can be problematic; I found at least
one to add major issues in my iMacG4 and made it hard to diagnose
another major hardware problem. Tossing the cheaper RAM (at retail
was higher cost than decent RAM) was the best thing; got a better one.
There should be a little information on boot ROM (firmware) per model in
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about the use of Open Firmware in Macs. Hope this helps some.
PS: for a time, you could get tech manuals on CD from places
such as http://www.applerescue.com/ (they have OS installers
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