GeForce 4 Ti4600 problem :/

Hi,
2 Days ago i bought the following system:
Asus,A7V333, SocketA, VIA KT333 >2000 Mhz, RAID, Audio&Firewire,Socket A
AMD,Athlon Thoroughbred 2200+ 1.80GHz, Socket A /266 + ThermalTake,SokkelA/P4 478, Volcano 7 cooler
Asus,DVDx16 / CDx48, E616, IDE100
Microstar,MS-8872 Geforce4 Ti-4600, 128DDR MB DDR, TV-OUT/VIDEO-IN, retail,AGP
2,WD,120.0 GB - UDMA/100 - 7200/8096KB,Caviar 1200JB
Surecom,SU-EP-320X-S, 32 Bit PCI Fast Ethernet netcard,10/100 Mbit
Twinmos,1024 MB PC-333 DDR2700
Everything went fine until i installed the drivers to the 8872 and rebooted the pc to finalized the installation. The problem is that i only get to the Windows 98 SE startup screen and then the pc reboots in safe mode. I can use the standard Windows drivers without any problems. I even updated the bios on the mainboard to 1008 beta 3 on Asus homepage without any luck + i installed latest drivers and tried with several other drivers versions. Still no changes :/
I borrowed Windows 2000 from work and it installed without any problems.
How do i get it to work in Windows 98 SE?
Is there anyone kind out there who can help me?
Regards
Feder

The link appears broken at this time.
As I recall, MS's solutions were:
1) remove some RAM,
2) configure the machine to ignore some RAM, or
3) pay MS for an upgrade.
The much better solution is to fix the problem. The problem is that the File Cache is configured at boot time as a function of your total system memory. However, the space for the cache is allocated from a particular section of memory (from which accelerated graphics resources are also allocated). The MS programmers didn't bother to check that the amount they were trying to allocate would actually fit.
Consequently, the nVidia drivers and the File Cache will fight for limited resources and one will lose. In neither event can the machine operate.
This link provides additional information on what's going on and why you might want to fix this, even if you aren't having a "too much RAM problem".
http://www.putergeek.com/vcache/index.shtml
Even more information is available at
http://tweakhomepc.virtualave.net/memory/vcache98.html
at which recommendations for particular RAM configurations are made.
And, in case you're wondering, the settings for this Win98SE, 1GB RAM machine are:
[vcache]
MinFileCache=65536
MaxFileCache=131072
ChunkSize=2048
NameCache=4096
DirectoryCache=96
ConservativeSwapFileUsage=1
I also must take umbrage with the recommendation that one should automatically upgrade to Win2k. If you're like me (and you probably aren't -- I've been a geek far too long), over half the software you use on a regular basis is unable to run under Win2k. Thus, for my workflow, there's no way to run Win2k. It's worthless to me. And, so far, no one's convinced me that giving up half the software I've spent ~10 years getting to know really, really well justifies spending yet even more money for something that is fundamentally the same as what I've got...

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My MSI Ti4600 problem has a problem blocking in games. It runs a little blocky in most games, but NFS Porsche is the worst.
I had a LeadTek GF3 w/64 meg RAM in there before that ran great. I really don't know why I wanted to change it... The same games ran great on my GF3, and continue to run great on the same GF3 in my P3 750 machine. Here are my machine specs:
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Also, the case, processor, chipset, hard drives and video card are all liquid cooled. The card is not overclocked and my video settings are set at 800x600. I had Direct X 8.1 in and it still did the same thing. My 3D Mark score is almost identical to the GF3 card at 11,700.
So what gives? Is this video card as cheap as I think it is?

Okay, problem solved!
I went with the ATI Radeon 9700 Pro, which by the way, uses more power than the GeForce 4 Ti4600, and have not looked back since! Oh yeah, I am using the same power supply too
Originally posted by deathstalker:
"Check out this POS Kingwin"
Don't you realize it is more affordable for a company to make one sticker and list all their products like a chart, rather than print four different stickers? If you have a problem reading that sticker, then you have absolutely no business being inside a computer!
Be careful about what you call a POS. My guess is that there are less than a dozen power supply manufacturers, as listed on the net. I can assure you that in manufacturing, one company will make the same product and put different names on it for other companies, distributors etc.....
Now a question for deathstalker and wonkaboy:
After about two days of searching the net, magazines, manufacturer's sites and speaking with techs in large and small computer stores, why did I find absolutely no articles or comments about Geforce 4's and power problems? If they need as much power as YOU say, and most power supplies sold in computers are around the 300 watt flavor( and not all antec), then why are there no articles or complaints about it? Why do the manufacturer's not put XXX watts combined required on the box, in the readme or in the manual? Because it is nowhere near an issue you are making of it.
Seriously, with thousands upon thousands of GeForce 4's sold, and nothing about power problems? Except here, of course.
By the way, I did find one site ( Best Buy I think) that listed some power requirements, they averaged at 300 watt power supply, if it was even listed. Most 300, some 250 and only one 350. All with no combined power recommendation.
If MSI has a need, it is heat sinks for the memory chips and a better gpu heat sink, but like your power supply idea, this is just an opinion.
I should've learned from the MSI mobo I had briefly. It had a nice little habit of supplying power to the KVM switch and optical mouse when it was shut down. I, however, got absolutely no help on the old website with this problem.
Now, after all that, I must thank the two of you for replying to this thread and trying to help me with this problem.
Thank You!
That is something I am sure you don't hear often on the net, or even in this message board :(

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unclekreepy,
In all honesty, you might need to consider the power supply in your rig,
it might not be adequate, this is one of the major components that’s
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stable, Athlon’s and FX cards are power hungrey!
I would borrow a friend’s higher watt PSU to see if that makes a difference!
PSU are sensitive to heat, an increase in temp equals a decrease in watts!
Always buy a quality named brand PSU like a Antec, Enermax, Fortron,
or the best PC Power & cooling!
This thread by clarkkent57 on “Choosing The Right Power Supply” is
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Sorry i cant find any related to Geforce 3 Ti200, so i use Geforce 4 ti as it topic fronties. Currently i am using Geforce Ti200, after i install ur website driver Nvidia VGA Driver 45.32 for Win2000/XP/Server2003, it just very often keep my pc hang at the time, if i no use this driver, i cant play certain game, do u mind tell me what to do? Why this driver caused a lot of problem to my pc? Is it somekind of bug, can u release new driver to fix it?

No MSI employees work in this forum, this is a user to user help forum only.
As far as the drivers for the Ti-200, there were users reporting problems with later drivers in this forum. If you do a search of the VGA forum, I'm sure you'll find the threads related to this issue.
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