[GeForce 6] MSI GF 6600 DIAMOND and msicpl.sys BSOD

Hello,
Everytime I run MSI control panel (MSI Information panel and MSI Clock panel) I get BSOD telling me that file msicpl.sys is working not well, etc.
I'm using 71.50 drivers.
And the second problem. My card is running at PCIx0 - can't change to work at AGP 8x. Any ideas?
And the last question - how to decrease the fan speed? it's a bit loud.

Please go to Start>All Programs>Accessories>System Tools>System Information. Expand the "Hardware Resources" Tree, select "IRQ's" then use the menu bar's "Edit" command to "Select All" then "Copy" Then post the contents on a new post.
It should look like this, structure wise anyway.
IRQ 0   System timer   OK
IRQ 1   Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard   OK
IRQ 4   Communications Port (COM1)   OK
IRQ 6   Standard floppy disk controller   OK
IRQ 7   Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM SMBus Controller - 24C3    OK
IRQ 8   System CMOS/real time clock   OK
IRQ 9   Microsoft ACPI-Compliant System   OK
IRQ 12   Microsoft PS/2 Port Mouse (IntelliPoint)   OK
IRQ 13   Numeric data processor   OK
IRQ 15   Secondary IDE Channel   OK
IRQ 16   NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440   OK
IRQ 16   Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C2    OK
IRQ 17   SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio   OK
IRQ 18   Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C7    OK
IRQ 19   Intel(R) 82801DB/DBM USB Universal Host Controller - 24C4    OK
IRQ 20   Intel(R) PRO/100 VE Network Connection   OK
IRQ 21   Silicon Image SiI 3112 SATALink Controller   OK
IRQ 23   Intel(r) 82801DB/DBM USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller - 24CD   OK
Have you tried installing the nVidia GART drivers again? From the nVidia nForce Platform UDP drivers?

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Sorry for the long narrative but wanted to answer as many questions about my page first.

^^^ Long post.
Cliff's notes for those I may have lost:
Page dynamically adds two Javascript functions to the onload event.
Each Javascript function calls some PL/SQL but it's all done using get.GetAsync.
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