Geforce 6800 AGP voltage

Whats the AGP voltage of the 6800 ultra ??
Anyone have the bios of the MSI NX6800UltraT2D256???

KarZyX,
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i need the bios to look it configuration
You have one already in your Vid Card, just save it.
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Richard

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My PM is an AGP one, so these are the two high end contenders on the retail market.

I have the 6800GT, which works fairly well for me. I think the X800 is overall a slightly faster card, depending on what is benchmarked. Here is something you might want to look at:
http://www.barefeats.com/radx800.html
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Will this card work? - Nvidia Geforce 6800 ULTRA 256MB VRAM AGP Video Card

I posted a question about getting the maximum resolution from an Apple 30 inch Cinema Display and another card, which didn't work.
The replies were fast here in the forum and quite correct.
My next question is regarding the Nvidia Geforce 6800 ULTRA 256MB VRAM AGP Video Card.
I have an AGP card with an ATi Radeon 9600 Pro card that can't power the 30 inch because it's only 64MB and no DVI output.
I'm wondering whether this card will give me the maximum resolution?
Thanks again.

Hi Japamac-
Thanks for the quick reply.
My System Profiler indicates a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro, but it doesn't have the Dual Link since this is an older G5 with only 64MB of VRAM.
The GeForce 6800 is a refurb, but is Mac compatible.
I'm hoping that it will work, but since it won't be returnable, I don't want to spend the money needlessly.
I did order another card that the Apple support suggested should be compatible, but turned out that they sent me the PC version.
I've spoken to Apple as well and get conflicting info.
It boils down to the fact that this is a G5 with a late 2004 date.
It is fast enough for me and my only hang up is that I'm only getting 12980X800 resolution.
I'm not using it for gaming or graphics processing.
HTH.

Heat ram geforce 6800 ultra

i'm planning on installing a watercooling on my msi geforce 6800 ultra because the fan just makes way too much noise. therefore i can choose between a complete vga cooling or just a chipset cooling. so i was wondering... does th ram get hot when their not cooled or will they be just fine without any cooling?
i was also wondering if when i've installed the watercooling i can remove the extra powersupply and let the card run on the agp-power (probably not, but i only got a 460 W supply and i'm having powershortages (i already had to remove the tv-card))...

I do believe the RAM on the 6800 is GDDR3 which runs cooler than it's predecessors, however, I am not entirely sure.
I do know that some of the previous heatsink designs were basically consolidated solutions, meaning the GPU and RAM were cooled with a single heatsink.
If you take MSI's TopTech coolers found on some the 8X Ti 4X series, this was a prime example of this particular technology. I have found in several cases where I had failing fans, I had no alternative but to replace the cooler assembly with a single GPU fan such as the Vantec IceberQ 4 http://www.vantecusa.com/product-cooling.html# but the package only came with 4 heatsinks and the cards I had in my possesion needed 8. Needless to say I did not use them as I discovered that the card ran much cooler without them in a non overclocked situation, certainly ramsinks would have improved OC'ing performance but in a client situation, this was not necessary.
Ultimately what I noticed was happening was, that the all in one heatsink transferred heat from the GPU, to the heatsink and back to the ram chips that ran cooler anyways. Not the best solution IMHO.
Also there was an additional factor involved, and that was the systems I built had a side cover fan aimed directly at the card so in fact I didn't really need ramsinks.
In your situation, you may be able to get away with just the GPU waterblock, but for lack of my own experience with the 6800 I cannot say definitively that this would be the best solution for you. I do know that my X800's RAM is GDDR3 and seems to run cooler as memtioned above. But I am on air.
If you stay current with available systems by boutique builders that are featured in some PC magazines such as Maximum PC, you may have been aware that one system builder actually made a separate cooling solution for the ram as well.
I do not know if this is available yet, and you may find you may have to use a combination of air and liquid. You may not even need to do it at all. Hard for me to speculate

AGP Voltage @ 8x

Hi
I have query regarding the voltage that my GeForce FX5200 AGP card should be set to in the BIOS.
The 'spec' for the 875P AGP 3.0 slot states:
"AGP slot supports 8x/4x at 0.8v (AGP 3.0) or 4x at 1.5v (3.3v is not supported)"
Now according to CPU-Z, my FX5200 is running at 8x and my voltage setting is 1.65v, but shouldn't it be set to 0.8v for 8x?
(Come to think of it, I don't think the AGP voltage goes as low as 0.8v because I bleive the minimum voltage is 1.55)?
Maybe I'm not reading this correctly but I don't want to damage my board or AGP card, so I'd rather check it out with you guys.
Regards
Brave01Heart

No 1.55 is Fine ...As that is what MSI chose to use as the AGP Default......Some people run it at 1.6, But as most people don't realize that these newer generation Vid Cards get 90% of thier operating power from the +12V line (of the 4 pin Molex connector)....And even if you dont have a four pin molex, the only thing that you are doing is heating up your MCH (north bridge) with the the extra juice if you run it more then 1.5 Volts .....Sean REILLY875

K8N NEO PE MS-7030 and Geforce 6800 Vanilla

I am on the way to buy a new graphic card , and I have 2 choices : 1- XFX 6600GT AGP 8x 128MB 500/100 and 2-XFX 6800 AGP 8X 128MB 325/700, the difference between both about 25$ for the 6800
I prefer the 6800 but I read bad stories with nforce 3 mobos, so it is safe to go with the 6600GT, I know there is no much difference between 6600GT and 6800 but in 6800 you can unlock the extra pipelines and the vertex shader
I read a lot of topics about freezing and craches with ms7030 and 6800 series ??
any one is using K8N NEO PE MS-7030 and Geforce 6600 Vanilla without problems ??
is the problem still or it has been solved ??
SO what is your recommendation ?
Thanks

Quote from: Russ_xp on 23-October-05, 22:14:28
Go for the 6800, the problems with the nf3 chipset affect all series 6 cards including the 6600GT. The solution is simple - just disable fast writes in the BIOS.
The 6800 is a native AGP card but the 6600GT is a PCIe card with a HSI chip to convert it to AGP and it gets very hot. Also you may get lucky with the pipes and it should overclock a bit. If you stretch a bit further get the 6800GT with 256Mb and it OC's to Ultra speeds.
Too right... In addition disabling fastwrites and the dreaded ATI/NV speedup option, make sure that the 2D/3D accel speeds are at the same settings, if not the card tends to "freak out".
I have a BFG6800 OC ("vanilla" 6800 GPU/slight "factory OC") and I got lucky & was able to unlock the hidden hardware. I had an early 6800 GPU though & I think that Nvidia "closed the door" on that mod with the later builds. Something to keep in mind.
Regardless, with the unlocked hardware I was able to get near (close, but not quite) stock GT speeds but the benchmark score didn't really translate to the real world. The big limitation of the 6800 is the puny 128 mb of RAM. If I had it to do over again, I'd saved my pennies & got a GT (w/256mb of RAM), I'd be a lot happier with it. It's not that the 6800 is bad, but the GT is a LOT better.
The good thing is that the 6800 GT prices are starting to come down a bunch since the 7800's came out. If you shop around, you should be able to find a great deal on one. I'm about to go looking myself, if I come across a killer deal, I'll post back.
Edit: I've done a quick search & the chances of just finding an AGP 6800GT don't look too good. I've checked 5 vendors so far and they're either out of stock or discontinued I may have waited a bit too long....
But vanilla 6800's can be found for about $200.

XFX Geforce 6800 GT 256MB AGP8X

I have seen this XFX Geforce 6800 GT 256MB AGP8X,on http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002ZDRTE/202-3146470-7675026
Has any one used this card,from XFX,or any Xfx graphic cards,Have you had any problems with it,eg power supply issues,or warrinty.
Has any one used a Geforce 6800 GT 256MB AGP8X,from any MANUFACTURE,if so
could you give details,thanks (to fit a K8N Neo Platinum)
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Quote from: Doggy on 05-November-05, 14:35:53
lol
I have already smacked myself on the nose with a rolled up newspaper for my current AGP configuration. Now I just have to pick the mb and the video cards (2 x 7800's) to go in it. . .
doggy
Heck, I was kicking myself last year for not getting SLI... not too long after I bought my Neo.
Don't get me wrong, my Neo2 has taken all the abuse that I've thrown at it without a hiccup. I just thought at the time that AGP still had some more life just because so many people were still using it.
The marketing powers that be have decided otherwise & are "forcing" the switch. Now it seems that the decent AGP cards that are still available are selling at a premium compared to their PCI-e counterparts... and they won't be around much longer. If I could still get a "current tech" AGP card at a competitive price, I'd probably do it.
Just the price of "progress", I guess.
For me now, it's the matter in which order my upgrade is going to go.... Buy an X2 now, in anticipation for the new board/card or new board/card now & keep the "old" CPU...?
Decisions, decisions.... Yup... new thread coming on!

K8N FSR AGP voltage too high w 6800GT?

Hi guys !
I've been having trouble oc:ing my 6800GT and one guy told me that the problem is related to my AGP voltage. It's too high thus preventing the GT from running normally at higher speeds.
The symptoms of oc:ing are 1-3 sec freezings in 3DMark05/03/01 plus crashes "expolrer.exe & drwtsn32.exe". It's not a heat-related problem because I have a NV Silencer 5 mounted on the core which also covers all mem chips. My temp indicator shows me 45-50C idle 60-65C full-load.
I've heard that the GT requires 1.3V AGP voltage. Unfortunately you cannot lower AGP voltage in BIOS.
Any suggestions ??

i have almost teh same setup. when i first got my 6800 i had same issueso/c and i watercool.
it wasnt until i swapped my 430true power to wifes 350 enermax that it was straightened out. ex has like 32a on 12v line
cpu used to use the 5v line but now almost your whole system rides the 12v line all peripheral cpu and your gt juce sucker. so those old powersupplies cant keep up with big systems like ours
also with a64 some games you need to turn cool and quiet off during because the way the code is written it doesnt keep cpu at 100% so the cpu keeps throttling down and up. i just shortcut in my toolbar for the power control from control panel. it works nicely
agp 1.5v. 6800gt core voltage is 1.3 ultra is 1.4.
those numbers are not really related. your friend may be connecting numbers which are not related. dont forget 6800 has its whole own mobo essentially with a core and ram and other chips sitting on it. thats what the agp 1.5v goes to.
hope this helps

What would the agp voltage be???

the default voltage is 1.5
someone say change to 1.7 would be better , is that true????
my display card is nvidia geforce 4 ti with 8x .
does 8x need more power supply
if i change to 8x ,the temperature will be higher ??

The best voltage for any given AGP slot depends on a couple of things....The first and most important being how well(or close) the onboard voltage reporting winbond chip is.....The next thing is indeed the type of graphics card itself, and how much if any, do you have the Core and memory on the card Overclocked....But from everything that I have read about your G-F 4-Ti (and I also used to have one ), is that the AGP voltage for that Card should be Between 1.55 to 1.65 Volts....So I would start with 1.6 Volts and see how your games and benchmarks react ...If it does run stable at the "Default" AGP Voltage of 1.50, well thats fine too....But most cards will crash to desktop at a voltage of 1.50 while playing heavy graphics intensive games, so I find 1.60 to be the best........Sean REILLY875

ATI X1900 XT vs. GeForce 6800 Ultra

I am moving from a dual G5 2.5 system w/ GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL (AGP 8x) to a Mac Pro with X1900 XT (PCIe).
The GF6800 Ultra is a rather high end card, even now:
http://www.tomshardware.com/2004/04/14/performance_leap/page49.html
I believe the base GeForce 7300 in the Mac Pro config is a lower end card than the 6800 Ultra. More like a GF6600. What I'm wondering is whether or not the X1900 XT is in all respects a faster gfx board than what I'm running now.
Certainly the 16-channel PCIe offers 4x the bandwidth of AGP8x, which is a start.
Thanks.
blakespot

Yes, it is quite faster.
The standard core clock on the 6800 is 400MHz and 1GHz memory.
The X1900 XT has a standard core clock of 625MHz and 1.4GHz memory clock and has 256 MB more RAM than the 6800 for a total of 512.

Graphics card upgrade from GeForce 6800 Ultra...

Can anyone help me out?
I'm working in Final Cut Studio(FCS 2 in a few weeks wooo!!), Photoshop, AE7, Logic, etc. I'm on a Dual 2.7 G5 w/ 8GB SDRAM. I currently have the GeForce 6800 Ultra DDL card w/ a 23" CinemaHD display.
I've read a few posts saying that this card is pretty good, however I feel that my system still chugs a bit sometimes, depending on the application I'm in. I've read about the XT 800, ATI radeon 1900, and some others. In my system profiler, it says that I have an AGP bus, so I understand compatibiltiy is an issue, I just don't have an expansive knowledge of graphics displays/setups.
While I'm still not quite in the market for an 8core, I would still like to max my graphics speed and efficiecy on my current setup. Keep in mind I am close to purchasing a second 23" display as well.
Those things in mind, can somebody educate me a bit on alternatives/upgrades/options? Although price is always an issue, I would like to exhaust ALL avenues for this situation.
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Too add to Mike's response, here are some links to tests with both the 6800 Ultra and the X800:
http://barefeats.com/radx800.html
http://barefeats.com/radx850.html
Note that the second link contains info on the OEM X850 as well as the retail X800, so read the graphs carefully!

Is the geforce 6800 ultra ddr3 same as the ddr and will the ddr3 fit my dual powermac G5 june 2004?

i want to get this video card but there is a ddr and a ddr3 whats the difference and will it fit my power mac dual cpu june 2004??

The Apple OEM versions are GDDR3 memory for the GT DDL and the Ultra DDL.
Both run 16 pipelines and both use the NV4x GPU clocked at 350MHz and 400MHz respectively..
Total bandwidth runs in the favor of the Ultra DDL:
Geforce 6800 GT 32GB/s
Geforce 6800 Ultra DDL 35.2GB/s
However, benchmarks show the performance of the two cards to be very close:
http://www.barefeats.com/radx800.html
The PC versions of the GT and Ultra use the same GPU, GDDR3 memory and same clock speeds, except in the case of OC variants.
The Memory clocks of the GT and Ultras (OEM or PC) are 500 MHz (1000 MHz) and 550 MHz (1100 MHz).
Performance of the PC version is the same as the OEM equivalent, only port configuration and card width being major differences (PC cards are typically single slot, while OEM are dual slot. This is a negative if one has many PCI/PCI-X cards).
Of course there are cooler variations, but all use either a single or a dual slot Cooler Master cooler.
Both OEM Geforce 6800 GT and Ultra cards will fit in and work in any AGP G5 (yours) with only OS X Panther 10.3.6 or later being needed (Tiger sam an improvement in Geforce drivers).
Of the flashed GT and Ultra cards, the same is true of the OEM- either can be used in any AGP G5.

Will the XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra work with G5 Mac

I have the standard NVidia Geforce 6800 Ultra AGP card working in my G5 2.7DP, and have been given an XFX version of the card.
But the literature that comes with the XFX suggests it's for Windows, not Mac. Will it work in my Mac? If so, I'll keep it for a backup; if not, it's no use to me.
Description of card is XFX Geforce 6800 Ultra 256Mb DDR3 AGP8x Dual DVI TVout.

It won't work as is.
If you have the right ROM chip on it, you can put it into a Windows machine and flash it with a modified Mac ROM. If all is right and goes well, then it would work in a Mac.
Otherwise, as you put it, it is of "no use" to you.

MAC G5 nVIDIA GeForce 6800 ULTRA power

just purchased a mac edition geforce 6800 ultra for my g5 dual agp.
will I need to power it by splitting the power from the dvd drive?
thanks

Jeff Coutras wrote:
yes its a mac edition (with the little monitor graphic between the DVI ports).
So its powered by the agp port whereas a flashed card is not? just one more reason to stick with genuine mac i guess. thanx guys.
That's why I held out for the Mac edition card. Turns out that the ROM version on the one I got (2130, or 2.1.3) is later than some of the flashed cards. I paid a little more than what some flashed cards were going for and haven't regretted it for a second.
With two DVI-D Samsung monitors now, the viewing is just dandy now.

Problem with MSI Nvidia GeForce 6800 LE (128MB) when playing 3D games

Games problem
I have bought a new MSI Nvidia GeForce 6800 LE (128MB) a couple of months ago and have been have loads of trouble when playing games.
In windows, the graphics card works fine. The computer never crashes and everything is speedy. Movies on DVD, Xvid, Divx all play fine without problem, the most I get is the occasional freezing and then windows will be normal again.
The problem arises when I try to play a 3D game. When I load up the game it goes into the menu screens ok, the computer will load up the 3D engine and it will play for around a minute nice and crisp then the screen will go blank and computer will lock up. Then all the drives will go quiet and the computer will make 3 beeps with the PC speaker. Pressing CTRL+ALT+DEL at this point does nothing, nor does the reset button. I have to turn the power on and off.
I really have no clue why this is happening, I have taken the covers off and kept it in a cool area, hoping that it was something to do with over heating, my computer is not overly cluttered and this has made no difference.
I have also unplugged the CDR, DVDR, USB ports, one Hard drive (storage) to see if it was something to do with the power no getting to the Videocard and then tried to play a game and the same problem arose.
I have two games that I have tried, Tiger woods 2005 and doom III, both of which crash in the same manner.
I have tried to be as detailed as I can with the descritopn of my computer below and the power details I'm not sure about so I posted a picture of the power unit to help.
Many thanks for your help in this matter, I'm desperately trying to get some worth out of this card and feel frustrated that its going bonkers only when trying to play games :/
Please tell me if you require further information about the system.
Neehar Shah
Model : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
Speed : 3.21GHz
L2 On-board Cache : 512kB ECC Synchronous ATC (8-way sectored, 64 byte line size)
System BIOS : Phoenix Technologies, LTD 6.00 PG
Mainboard : Legend QDI PLATINIX-8
Total Memory : 511MB DDR-SDRAM
CPU
Model : Intel Corporation 82845G/GL/GE Brookdale Host-Hub Interface Bridge (B1-step)
Front Side Bus Speed : 4x 200MHz (800MHz data rate)
Total Memory : 512MB DDR-SDRAM
Memory Bus Speed : 2x 200MHz (400MHz data rate)
BOIS
Manufacturer : Phoenix Technologies, LTD
Version : 6.00 PG
Date : 06/19/2003
Plug & Play Version : 1.00
SMBIOS/DMI Version : 2.30
(EE)PROM Size : 256kB (2Mbit)
Video System
Monitor/Panel : SyncMaster 171S/ 175S/ 170S, SyncMaster Magic CX175S-AZ/LX175S
Adapter : NVIDIA GeForce 6800 LE
OEM Device Name : Nvidia Corp ??? (0042)
OEM Hardware ID : FUN_0, VEN_10DE, DEV_0042, REV_A1
Device Name : Micro-Star International Co Ltd (MSI) ??? (0042)
Product ID : VEN_1462, DEV_9751
Revision : K / 2 (161)
Physical Storage Devices
Hard Disk : Maxtor 6Y080L0 (76.3GB)
Hard Disk : ST3200822A (186.3GB)
CD-ROM/DVD : AOPEN CD-RW CRW2440 (CD 40X Rd, 24X Wr)
CD-ROM/DVD : PLEXTOR DVDR PX-708A (CD 40X Rd, 40X Wr) (DVD 5X Rd, 5X Wr)
Peripherals
USB Controller/Hub : USB 2.0 Root Hub
FireWire/1394 Controller/Hub : OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host Controller
MultiMedia Device(s)
Device : MPU-401 Compatible MIDI Device
Device : Standard Game Port
Device : Creative SB Audigy
Device : Creative Game Port
Operating System(s)
Windows System : Microsoft Windows XP/2002 Professional (Win32 x86) 5.01.2600 (Service Pack 2)
Network Services
Adapter : Realtek RTL8139/810x Family Fast Ethernet NIC

Firstly, thank you for all your prompt responses, I really appreciate it. From the sounds of it, the PSU is ****
antec
From what I have read, the Antec PSUs have good reliability and ratings. I looked around and saw this one: Antec NEOPower 480W ATX PSU for around £65. I also went read that article posted by Dr Stu, which then stumbled on more articles about PSUs.
I have a couple more questions….
The rating of my system (http://www.jscustompcs.com/power_supply/Power_Supply_Calculator.php) with all the components running came out to be 422W. So do you think that the Antec NEOPower 480W ATX PSU would be sufficient for the computer considering I might add more RAM in the future?
Or should I buy the 500W+ one then?
Does anyone know if the Antec PSUs are quiet? My current q-Tec one makes me feel I'm in an aeroplane.
lucky I read the forum!
I was in Maplins (computer shop) at lunch and thought, that shiny 650W Q-Tec looks nice and there looks like loads of power, that much do the trick. i got to the counter and thought.....let me wait, till i get home from work and read some more on the forum about this PSU issue.
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