GeForce 8800 Ultra???

Can anyone tell me what the difference between a after market 8800Ultra card is than the 8800GT card that Apple sells or even between another after market 8800GT card lets say from EVGA. I read some where that it is the firmware so it that the only difference or is there a hardware difference? and would there be a firmware patch to allow an 8800 Ultra to run in Leopard?

so the real issue is that once apple decides to support SLi the enthusiasts cards will start being made for macs, and EFI is supported by vista and Xp correct? Is EFI apples BIOS? or ROM? or a completely different chip all together? if EFI is supported by windows, i'm assuming so since macs run windows, then it would make sense to incorporate it into all cards in the future, would it not?

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MSI GeForce 8800 Ultra OC Lock / Freeze ups

Hi, this seems to be a general problem not just with MSI, I'm reading exactly the same problems being experienced by other 'Ultra' users.
After 20 or so mins of play (mainly bf2 / COH / Far Cry for me) the card/display driver crashes, the screen flickers and sound pulses then ultimately Windows (XP) locks-up/BSOD's.
If I ctrl-tab quick enough I can go back into Windows and 2d is fine. If I then try and reload a game or any 3d app, it will immediately hang again, ie the only way to recover is to reboot.
The GPU temperature reported is fine around 80 degrees at time of crash.
However, I can run 3dmark2006 to my hearts content with no issue and the same with FSX.
I tried lots of different things, endless driver revisions (yes use Driver Cleaner 1st), re-installing games etc to no avail.
Increasing the GPU fan to 100% with Riva-Tuner has no effect but removing the side panel of my computer does result in no problem (strange eh).
Now from what I have read, it is a problem with the memory being overclocked too much at factory.
So as recommended by a poster to another thread, I reduced the factory 2300mhz memory speed down to 2200mhz and now I am running fine.
I have a large Thermaltake case with 4 system fans so cooling is not an issue. Having said that, even if I had no fans the card should still not crash as the product does not specify any special cooling requirements.
Has anyone else with this card experienced the same problem? Is it a driver issue, or a problem with this card that is known about by MSI? Or is the card faulty, should I send it back?
I reported the problem to my reseller after 1 day and they told me they would need the card for 7 days and send it back to MSI if they couldn't find a fault. I am not prepared to do that and if it is not fit for my purposes, shouldn't they offer me an instant refund even if they test it and it works for them. I know for a fact they won't pay someone to sit there playing bf2 for half and hour lol, they will more likely run 3dmark and then tell me card is fine, when it isn't (for me)!
Here are links to other people with similar issues:
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=111126&page=1
http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?act=ST&f=26&t=36798&st=0#entry221554
http://forums.hexus.net/showthread.php?t=110912
Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.
Thermaltake Kandalf
MSI 8800 Ultra OC Edition
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DVD Re-Writer
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OMG THIS IS EXACTLY THE PROBLEM I HAVE!!
Ok sorry for caps. I have the exact same specs as elmes. I even had the exact same card as him previously x1900xtx from powercolor and it was rock solid for 1.5 years. I got the first MSI 8800 Ultra a couple of weeks ago and I launched EQ2 and lo and behold everything's great until I start seeing a weird black line flash in the middle of the screen every 20-30 seconds. Having had experience with problems like these I knew it was overheating or bad memory on the GPU or so I thought at the time. I have a ThermalTake Armor case with an 80mm fan custom mounted on the side blowing directly at the mobo and CPU, a Zalman 9500 on the CPU blasting the hot air across the case into the back exhaust 80mm, i've got a 40mm at the top of the case blowing the air out, 2 80mm front mounted blowing in and an extra exhaust 40mm in the back and the 80mm fan that comes side mounted on my OCZ GameXStream 700W PSU. So as you can tell the power and cooling is not a problem. Card runs 60c idle and max of 85c during ati tool artifact scan for 5 hours. (bosskiller could you please explain what combined PSU mode is exactly? i've never heard of that either, i have 2 PCI-E cables securely connected to the GPU).
So I launched CoH and same black lines, only worse. I then went on and downclocked the card to 635/2200 and surely enough all problems went away as far as the black line was concerned. So after poking around the net and ripping out a few hairs on my head for paying so much money for a buggy GPU, i decided to RMA it through Newegg. At the time I thought that maybe the box got damaged being shipped from CA to MA or I just got a bad card...
So I got a brand new 8800 last night, overnighted from NJ in fact. Box in perfect condition and everything inside....
I launch EQ2.....play for 30 minutes....no black lines...........WOW......n4_disp crash to desktop 5 min later..............
So sure enough I thought ok, don't panic....bad drivers.....uninstalled all of my nvidia drivers (I have an MSI P6N Diamond mobo too btw, had severe problems with software raid, SiL's running well now) and 162.18 release drivers....installed 158.22....same problem.
In an hour, the card started crashing in EQ2 every 5-10 minutes (and this was also at a particularly bad time as I was getting mauled by a lvl 57 epic djinn Al'zheri)....no black lines this time. So off I went and clocked it down to 635/2200 as I had the previous card, all problems vanished. Ran ATI tool artifact scan for overnight....all stable. Played EQ2 for an hour and a half this morning....all stable....
So now I'm certain that MSI 8800 Ultra is clocked too high. In fact go and take a look at the OC settings of other VGA manufacturers, MSI is the highest with the exception of XFX.
So either the QA team at MSI didn't do a proper job or 2 cards shipped from different locations with a 2 week delay in between happened to magically be bad. I'm gonna call Newegg today and see if I can exchange it for another brand.....
PC specs:
MSI NX8800Ultra-T2D768E-HD-OC GeForce 8800Ultra 768MB
MSI P6N Diamond LGA 775 NVIDIA nForce 680i SLI
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 Conroe 2.66GHz LGA 775 (running at stock speed)
G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800
OCZ GameXStream OCZ700GXSSLI ATX12V 700W
Seagate 320GBx2 RAID-0 HD on SiL

8800 ULTRA

Hi,
I'm hoping to install an nvidia geforce 8800 Ultra into a mac pro (sept 2007 version). Note - this isn't the card provided by apple for the newer mac pros.
I don't care about running OSX (its for scientific computation and linux gives better performance), so think that driver type problems don't matter (provided it can actually boot into rEFIt).
However, the card needs 2 additional power connectors. Inside the mac pro, there are two connectors of the same type (top left of the mother board, near the fan, black) but I want to know whether these are compatible - does anyone know what the pinout for these is, before I take a scope probe to them, or whether they are typically used for graphics card additional power?
Provided they are compatible, can anyone foresee any problems with this?
Many thanks...

I bought cable from WeLoveMacs for an 8600 GTS.
You can find the part on Apple Store, but they don't sell it by itself. And PCIe 2.0 has brought out new aux connectors, any site that gets into hardware will likely talk about the 6 and 8 and adapters like http://www.techreport.com

P6N SLI with Geforce 8800 GTS 640 MB won't install Windows

Hi all,
After a reply in the topic for updating your bios.
I was advised to ask the solution for my question here before flashing my Mobo.
My Specs:
Intel Core 2 Duo 6600
4 GB DDR-2 (4 slots)
Geforce 8800 GTS 640 MB PCI-Express
Sitecom WL-171 wireless lan card.
500 GB Hitachi SATA Disk
1 DVD burn/reader
P6N SLI Mainbord with Beta Bios because it wasn't able to use 4 GB Ram at that time.
Zalman 460 Watt
Now the problem
First it was working but with a Geforce 7600 GT 256 PCI-Express.
I have upgraded it today to a 8800 GTS.
After this upgrade my Vista won't boot anymore, same for my Ubuntu.
What is causing the problem?
Is my Powersupply not strong enough or should I flash my bios?
Thanks in advance.
edit: Windows XP 32 or 64 bit. Vista 32 or 64 bit all gave the same stop error: 0x000007e
The knowledge base sais it is a driver problem?
But it isn't even installed.

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Bottom line, does 8800 ultra sli setup ensure better performance ?

greetings all, first time poster here !
anyways, just got my new rig in town the other day, quad core q6600, 4 mg ram, msi 8800 ultra OC, vista 32bit..thing is mad.Have a question tho, putting the already insane performance bar aside, if money isnt an object, would another ultra result in an obvious performance boost, or are we speaking only marginal advantages here, like early slis 6600gt for example, sli setup was only 25/30 percent faster than one card performance.
thanks for every answer in advance
cheers

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so you say, the bigger the resolution the better performance with ultra ?
Well the performance is not better the higher the resolution. The ADVANTAGE compared to a slower card or single card to SLi is higher.
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How far can you reckon can this be pushed
Very doubtful it will do 700mhz gpu. At least nobody can tell you what one of those vgas does. It's a matter of the individual sample. You will only find out by testing. But the possibility you kill it that way is very little. If you keep an eye out for the temps and those don't get past 100°C you're fine.
If you set gpu clock too high it will show with artifacts or bluescreens in 3d. So if you lower the clock when experiencing such behavior you won't damage your card. Of course you shouldn't set way too high clocks. I'd recommend not to set any higher than 700mhz unless this proves to be rockstable. Mem clock shouldn't set higher than 2300 but doubtful it will make it.
DON'T TRUST MSI UTILITY! Set clocks manually and check after any step. Many of those GeForce 8 especially oc versions or high end models don't even do stock settings. So best would be checking the card first at stock settings and then starting to oc.

24" iMac GeForce 8800 GS Pixelated Display

I bought a refurb Spring 2008 24" iMac with the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS video card from the Apple online store almost a month ago now. Worked brilliantly until yesterday afternoon when the display suddenly went all pixelated, with a funny aqua coloured wash effect over parts of all windows, the menu bar and desktop. The desktop background image shadows are all pixely and blocky (as if it'd switched to 256 colours or resolution had suddenly reverted lower than default is the best way I can describe it). The drop shadows are all pixelated too and parts of the desktop background seem to pulse... It happens, sometimes a few minutes after a bootup, but usually almost immediately, booting from the internal disk and my external backup disk, from the install DVD, and also if I boot in safe mode. Given this I don't think it's a software or driver issue.
I've run hardware check from the supplied 10.5.4 DVD, both the short and the long runs, and it found nothing. If I shut it down and leave it for a while (like an hour or overnight) it'll come up and work fine for a few minutes, then the display will flash several black horizontal lines for a second or two and then the display will switch back to the pixelate/low res mode again. When it happens the Displays preference pane shows the correct 1920 X 1200 setting, millions of colours, and the Display Profile is set to iMac as it should be (and changing to another profile doesn't help).
It seems possibly temperature related as leaving it powered down for a while seems to fix it temporarily but the iStat Nano widget shows the CPU/GPU temps are only about 43-47C when it goes crazy, so it doesn't seem to be particularly high (and I'm usually only doing some web browsing when it happens, no games or videos playing or anything). The machine seems to work fine aside from the messed up display, I can launch apps and work with them when it's happening.
The machine came with 10.5.4 installed and I updated it to 10.5.6 via software update and used Migration Assistant to copy my user data and apps from my MacBook Pro.
I've reset parameter RAM and SMC with no change in behaviour. The only new software installed recently was the iPhone SDK about three days before it started playing up and I also installed Scribbles drawing program several hours before it started misbehaving (but I wasn't using Scribbles at the time it broke and I've since removed it with no change).
Has anyone seen this problem before? Is it a faulty graphics card as it appears or could it be something else given that hardware tests found no problems?

Wow, this is bizarre. I got home today and I have the exact same issue, except I have a mac mini, so it is obviously the original video card. I thought it must be that somehow the video card got damaged, but now I think whatever has caused your problem is related to mine.
I booted in safe mode and the video was clear, there are some hardly noticable artifacts when dragging a window but that is probably due to the safe mode driver. I really don't know what to think. Maybe the video card got messed up or maybe it is in the driver. But you have to admit that it seems beyond coincidence that we would both have the save video issue on almost the same day, even though we have different hardware setups, maybe something else is going on.
Please let us know what is response you get!
Cheers.
-Sam

My Mac Pro (2006) with NVidia GeForce 8800 GT is not detecting a second display. What can I do?

My Mac Pro w/ NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT does not detect a second display from the System Preferences / Displays. Even though I select the "Detect Displays" button, nothing happens. I also have Bootcamp and Windows 7 in a partition on my drive. When I operate with Windows 7, there is no problem detecting both of my displays. However, when I operate with Windows 7, there is no sound signal sent from my sound card. When I switch back to the OS X then I get a sound feed from the sound card, but then it will not detect more than one monitor. I'm ready to pull out my hair. Anyone have suggestions?

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Photoshop CS4 Issues with the NVIDIA GeForce 8800?

I have an Mac Pro Intel 2 x 2.8 GHz Quad-Core Xeon with 6GB RAM running OS X 10.5.5 and an NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT driving two monitors.
I just installed Adobe Photoshop CS4 fresh from a factory CD.
When I perform a Distort -> Lens Correction or do a Free Transform to rotate an image an arbitrary amount, and then follow that with a resize (tried 133% and 166%), the image ends up with a pattern of gray plaid overlaid -- especially visible in the darkest shadows. The pattern appears only on the rotated layers of an image.
This pattern persists if I quit and restart Photoshop, BUT -- there's no pattern visible if I open the same image in Photoshop CS3. It only appears in CS4.
This is easy to reproduce -- I just tried it with an image I created in Photoshop at 5x7" at 240dpi and filled with solid black.
I dropped a Bug Report to Adobe, and they wrote back suggesting "This is most likely an issue with your video card driver."
Anybody else out there having this issue? Anyone with an identical setup want to test this?
-=-Joe

sako75 wrote:
I'm seeing what you are talking about when viewing at 200% and up on my 300dpi images. I'm thinking that its the new pixel grid overlay for dialing in the details on the image.
No, that's not it. I can see it at 100%, and only on images that have been rotated and resized.
In fact, yesterday I rotated one layer under an unrotated layer, and only the rotated layer showed the plaid pattern.
And it's not a simple grid -- it's a real plaid-like gray, almost like stretch marks.
-=-Joe

IMovie08 has never worked for me, is it My NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT card???

My preinstalled copy of iMovie v 7.1.1 will not startup, the dock icon will show that the app is not responding
I have a fresh out of the box 2 x 3.2 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon Power Mac
pre-installed Mac OSX 10.5.1
I migrated from my titanium laptop to my new Mac.
migrated my user account, applications and system settings
then used the Mac OSX 10.5.2 combo update
I then reinstalled iMovie
running disk permission repair before and after each of the step I took above
still no go
Application Not Responding
several post state that removing some of the preferences will help this issue but so far those haven't worked at all in my case
would be great to know exactly which preferences have anything to do with iMovie
I have scanned over the discussions and seen this very topic all over, but no apple tech responding.
please let us in on how to resolve this issue
I hope we can do this without completely reinstalling all software.(makes a preinstall pretty useless)
thanks for any and all suggestions
-P
sys config:
Mac Pro 2 x 3.2 Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Mac OS 10.5.2
10 GB RAM
NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT video card
plenty of harddisk space

Do it in Windows:
http://www.softpedia.com/get/Tweak/Video-Tweak/GeForce-Overclocking-CoolBits-Reg .shtml

Buying a 1st Gen Mac Pro nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB from Applemacanix...

_*Hi to All:_*
_First of all thanks for taking the time to read my post._
I am going to buy a 1st Gen Mac Pro nVidia GeForce 8800 GT 512MB Video Card from ebay to applemacanix, it looks like they give good service and I wont recive a bad product but I wannt to know from mac user what they think about this ebay user? I put the link [here|http://cgi.ebay.com/1st-Gen-Mac-Pro-nVidia-GeForce-8800-GT-512MB-Video-Ca rdW0QQitemZ270514929671QQcategoryZ3762QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m263QQ_trkparm sZalgo=DLSL%2BSIC&its=I%2BC&itu=UCI%2BIA%2BUA%2BFICS%2BUFI%2BDDSIC&otn=20&po=&ps =63&clkid=8899382923051298334#ht_5840wt1167]
Second I wannted to know what you think about the card? Has it worked ok for you? Any strange issue I should be aware?
Thanks in advance
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Applemecanix are the Microsoft of card flashers.
There are at least 5 other flashers on Ebay who will sell you the EXACT same card, with the EXACT same ROM flashed on it for around $100 less.
For that matter, a little time on MacRumours and you could figure out how to make one yourself for $200 less.
However, if you have money to burn, by all means give it to them.

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I just bought a new Geforce 6800 Ultra and I'm a little confused about the settings for TV output via the s-video cable. Is it possible to have only the video I'm watching zoomed full screen on the TV? Currently I'm only able to get the desktop shown on the TV but not the video only.
I'm asking this because I used to have Matrox Parhelia 128 which had this function and I liked to watch all the DVD's and other video from my tv.
Thank you for your help!

I'm still confused about the TV-problem.
When I switch to TV mode I can watch videos from TV but when I return I have to put all the resolutions and screen adjustments back in the settings. It's really frustrating to do it every time.
Does anyone know a workaround for this?

Will the new GeForce 8800 make a difference for Final Cut Express?

Planning to buy soon a new 24 inches iMac, I am wondering if the new GeForce 8800 graphic card will make a significative difference compared with the ATI 2600 Pro?

Basically, no. The additional VRAM may enhance your overall RT Effects capability and may provide some general benefit if you run 2 monitors in extended desktop mode. But it won't make a difference in general editing or playback of your videos.

Radeon 2600 beats GeForce 8800 -- again

I was doing some tests comparing two iMacs, one with the Radeon 2600 Pro and one with the GeForce 8800 GS. The test was to import a movie file into iMovie, which renders thumbnails of each segment of the video.
The iMac with the Radeon completed the thumbnails faster even though it had a slower CPU clock (2.8 vs 3.06GHz). Huh?
The same thing happened when I encoded a DVD project into a disk image using iDVD. This required it to render an animated welcome screen. The iMac 2.8 with Radeon 2600 Pro beat the iMac 3.08 with the GeForce 8800 GS!
Scratching my head, I decided to try the same two tests on a Mac Pro 3.2GHz 8-core. When the Radeon 2600 XT was installed, the Mac Pro completed the iMovie and iDVD tests faster than when the GeForce 8800 GT was installed.
Apparently the GPU is handling at least a portion of both tasks -- and the Radeon 2600 handles its portion better than the GeForce 8800. And to add insult to injury, the Radeon 3870 will be shipping within a week.
Message was edited by: rob_ART to correct spelling.

Thanks for the information. I am considering to replace my standard mac pro first generation video card by a ge force 8800.
I am using the mac pro mainly for D 200 raw file editing on 30 inch ACD screen. I jjust wondered if yoyr results are also applicable for my situation.
Any comments
Iemke

New iMac 24 " GeForce 8800 flicker : sharing a solution

Just in case you face the same problem I have had with a new 24" iMac equiped with a GeForce 8800 GS. I faced a flickering of rectangular areas on the screen in certain applications, the worst being Capture NX 2, but also while scrolling the iTunes Store pages. The problem also implied the smearing of text lines while scrolling rapidly (with the mouse center button) web pages or text files.
I did a safe boot and noted the problem had disapeared. I de-activated Snapz Pro as a starup item and am now working w/o the problem any more. I thought I'd share this. I will contact Ambrosia Software to inform them.

Hello, maybe you've seen the other topic on this board about rectangular areas that flicker.
I'm wondering what exactly you mean with a 'safe boot'? And this Snapz Pro was an application you installed yourself?
Could you do me a favour and go into iTunes, then activate visualisation (apple+T i think) and at view go to visualisation and then options.
You'll get a prompt box. Now check if the OK button is flickering, if so I guess the problem is still there but now in a less annoying way. (will upload a video later on)
When I look at the other topic I'm getting more and more the idea that this is a hardware problem not a software one. Alltho it has been gone for a while but now it's back, really weird and such a trigger.

Is the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS worth the money for Final Cut Express?

Hi,
I'm considering a new iMac 24, but not sure if the speedier on is worth the money.
Currently I use a MacBook Pro 2.2 for Final Cut Express with a 23" cinema (mostly DV, some HD) and that works okay, but won't play back in real time when I composit video.
Anybody know if the NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GS will help in that area?
Thanks,
KC

The speedier video card is great for 3D stuff, but it won't matter a wink for Final Cut Express, which barely makes use of the video card.
Keep in mind that Final Cut is using the CPU, not video card, to perform the editing, decoding, and encoding of the video. The only time the video card comes into play is during playback of the video, and any of the video options available for iMacs will handle that just fine.
When you composite video, the hard-disk throughput will start to come into play. The dinky 5400 RPM disk in your laptop will adversely affect the performance of that.

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