Geforce 9800GT always at 100% fan speed, no adjustment possible

Here's what I've discovered so far:
Changing the fan speed (even with superuser privileges) in nvidia-settings doesn't work.
"nvclock -f -F 50" outputs: Error: adjustment of the fanspeed isn't supported on your type of videocard!
nvidia-settings reveals the GPU is at 65% speed all the time, even when the fan is supposedly on "auto" and cold. I can change the fan manually above 65% (but only in nvidia-settings); however, the fan does not make any audible changes in noise level.
nvclock reports GPU temp is -398C. nvidia-settings reveals what I believe to be the correct temperature of 37-38C (it does fluctuate)
Strange things that I don't think are directly related to this problem
2D and 3D clocks appear to be the same stock under nvidia-settings. Overclocking appears to work, but changes both at the same time.

nvidia 310.19-2, nvidia-utils 310.19-1, nvclock 0.8b4-3, lib32-nvidia-utils 310.19-1
uname -a: Linux arsenic 3.6.8-1-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon Nov 26 22:10:40 CET 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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