GeForce FX 5900 XT, DirectX 8 & 9 games hang -- solved.

This was my original posting:
I have recently bought a MSI GeForce FX 5900 XT VTD128. To my surprise I have exprerienced numerous crashes in games that use DirectX 8 or better. The games pauses and I get a blue Windows XP (retail version - 5.1.2600 - , without Service Pack 1) crash screen that says the game was stopped to prevent any damage to Windows and some things I should check (wich I did) and in the technical part:
*** STOP: 0x0000008E (0xc0000005, 0xF7D83E2D, 0xBA2DC29C, 0x00000000)
*** nv4_mini.sys - Address F7D83E2D base at F7CD9000, DateStamp 3fb91de8
Those hexadecimal are not within the range of memory addresses the VGA card uses.
I get the error with Freedom Fighters, GTA Vice City, GTAIII, Crazy Taxi. The latter crashing much more than the former.
I tried ePSXe (the playstation emulator) using Pete's OpenGL 2 vga plugin, wich uses T&L and pixel shader and I had no problems.
Games that use OpenGL or DirectX 7 or less seem to work fine. This was checked with Quake III and Severance: Blade of Darkness.
DirectX 9.0b tests on DirectDraw and Direct3D found no problems, plus all the files are OK.
Afterwards a friend who works repairing PCs, recommended a clean install with the latest drivers for the motherboard as well as the lastest 53.03 vga drivers (MSI version). All this to no avail; I get the same message.
I've also tried vga drivers 52.16 and 53.06 (Beta), as well as disabling Fast Writes in the motherboard BIOS.
A web search only lead me to some driver pages. MSI have no troubleshooting help about the matter, at least that I could find, neither in the manual nor the website.
I have tried using my old NVidia Vanta again and GTAIII works perfect.
Both cards use IRQ 19 and don't share it.
I've noticed that DirectX acknowledges different files to both VGAs. Vanta's principal controller file is nv4.dll whereas 5900's nv4_disp.dll. The small VDD files are nv4.sys and nv4_mini.sys respectively.
Also nv4_disp.dll has no digital signature while all the others do.
Is there any diagnostic utility I could use to better pinpoint the problem I'm having?
Thanks for reading this far.
After this cry for help I didn't want to wait for a star to fall so I kept on doing homework. I delved deeper into the forums and found in the mobos forum a thread with a reply that said that bios 7.40 for K7N2 delta-ILSR solved an incompatibility issue with Geforce FX 5900 and another with a way to clean the remains of uninstalled drivers.
I was not up to flashing the bios yet so I tried the vga in two other different PCs.
The first one had Win98 with a mobo M810MR with DIMM RAM. It worked awfully. It crashed when double clicking an icon, didn't run many games and even didn't pass the DirectX tests. That with 4X.XX drivers (I don't quite remember the version). With 53.03 (MSI version) I wasn't as unstable but still had many problems.
Another PC entered into the scene. One with WinXP and Linux, as well as a KT2V PRo Dual with DDR RAM. In WinXP still couldn't run any games or 3dMark. It even rebooted it a couple of times, just out of the blue. In Linux it worked fine but didn't try any 3D games (didn't have any). It was detected as a Generic GeForce FX though.
Before sending my vga to another region of the country (something I wasn't very prone to do in the least, as I had to pay for sending and retreiving it) so the vendor could try it and replace it (if he found it faulty).
THE ALMIGHTY SOLUTION: for those too eager to stand my babbling this is what worked.
I flashed the bios up to version 7.60 and uninstalled the drivers and used Driver Cleaner. It works without any problems now. I tried it in my other 'test' brand new WinXP install without using Driver Cleaner and it seems that flashing the bios was enough. Although I would recommend using it.
Well, that's all. I thought it could be useful to have all this in one piece.
Thanks to all that cared.

You guys didn't read the post fully SPAMMERS
He solved his problem by updating the BIOS to the latest version, he has the nVidia Chipset based motherboard and there was a known issue related to the FX series video cards. This is nForce specific.... period

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Afterwards a friend who works repairing PCs, recommended a clean install with the latest drivers for the motherboard as well as the lastest 53.03 vga drivers (MSI version). All this to no avail; I get the same message.
I've also tried vga drivers 52.16 and 53.06 (Beta), as well as disabling Fast Writes in the motherboard BIOS.
A web search only lead me to some driver pages. MSI have no troubleshooting help about the matter, at least that I could find, neither in the manual nor the website.
I have tried using my old NVidia Vanta again and GTAIII works perfect.
Both cards use IRQ 19 and don't share it.
I've noticed that DirectX acknowledges different files to both VGAs. Vanta's principal controller file is nv4.dll whereas 5900's nv4_disp.dll. The small VDD files are nv4.sys and nv4_mini.sys respectively.
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Sorry to hear about your problem m8, sounds wery strange!
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