GeForce NX7900GS-T2D512E vs GeForce NX7600GS Noise
Hello,
I expect to start a new build shortly, and I am trying to build a low-noise computer that will last and maintain relevance for a few years and mainly support photoshop.
My intended system:
* 2 x Seagate Barracuda ES 750 GB SATA drives, RAID1
* Antec SOLO Quiet MidTower case
* MSI 875X Platinum with a Core 2 Duo, 2.4 GHz Processor with 4MB Cache
* Corsair TWIN2X2048-6400 2GB Kit DDR2-800 XMS2-6400
* 2 x Sony DRU-830A 18X Double Layer DVD±RW
* Zalman ZM600-HP HeatPipe Cooled 600w Modular Power Supply
* Samsung 244T-Black SynMaster 24in Analog/Digital LCD
* MS-VISTA Home Premium 64-Bit
* MSI GeForce 7600GS-256 or 7900-GS-512
My impression is the GeForce NX7600 sets the standard for low noise, but perhaps the NX7900GS-T2D512 doesn't generate much more noise? Any reviews or info that has quantified the noise for the 7900GS-512? I've found relatively good noise accounts for the 7900GS-256 so I presume the 7900GS-512 is similiar and will maintain relevance longer than say the 7600-256, and if the noise is low enough I'd probably rather buy the 7900GS-512. Comments?
Thx.
Scott
if you are looking for low noise, should get some VGA with passive cooling or water cooling solution.
NX8600GTS-T2D256EZ-HD
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1197&maincat_no=130#
NX7950GT-VT2D512EZ-HD
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1045&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136
NX7900GS-T2D256EZ-HD
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1065&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136
there is much other choices as well with passive solutions, or Water cooled, take a look them here:
http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=prodpage2&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136
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Thunderbolt Bus:Mid-2010 15" MacBook Pros - the bad NVIDIA GPU
If you're having frequent kernel panics with your 15" mid-2010, or intermittent screen problems, the problem is, more than likely, the faulty NVIDIA GPU found in a number of those machines.
Here's just a sample of a kernel panic log that points to the faulty NVIDIA card:
Kernel Extensions in backtrace (with dependencies):
com.apple.GeForce(6.4.0)@0x82ac4000->0x82b7afff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.4.0)@0x834a0000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2.1)@0x82fd3000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)@0x7a802000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2.1)@0x8301b000
com.apple.nvidia.nv50hal(6.4.0)@0x83c05000->0x84019fff
dependency: com.apple.NVDAResman(6.4.0)@0x834a0000
com.apple.NVDAResman(6.4.0)@0x834a0000->0x8378dfff
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOPCIFamily(2.6.5)@0x7a802000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IONDRVSupport(2.2.1)@0x82fd3000
dependency: com.apple.iokit.IOGraphicsFamily(2.2.1)@0x8301b000
Here's the "official" Apple take on the issue - but the very real kernel panics need not be preceded by 'Intermittent black screen or loss of video'... in fact, you might not experience any video problems at all. Although video problems can certainly be a portent of things to come…
So what can you do? Print out a copy of your kernel panic and a copy of the Knowledge Base article and take them, along with your machine, to your local Apple Store or an Apple Authorized Service Provider. The unfortunate thing is that many people have passed the “three years from date of purchase” now and Apple is not honoring the free logic board replacement for many users. Some dealers seem to be making some exceptions for those past the three year mark, but don’t count on it…
Good luck,
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GeForce 8800 with GeForce 7300
I'm looking for some advice... I am planning on purchasing a 30in LCD (Samsung 305T) and I'm wondering if I should upgrade my current GPU (GeForce 7300) to the GeForce 8800. Or if the 7300 is capable of driving the 30in monitor.
My next question is whether or not I can re-utilize my existing GeForce 7300 GPU's with the 8800. If the 8800 is that much better than the 7300 I would like install the 8800 and connect the new 30in monitor to it. Then connect my existing 2 x 24" LCD's to the 7300 GPU's (one each, I have 2 x 7300).
Will this be possible?
Most of my time on the system is spend using standard desktop application like MS Office (70%). The rest of the time I spend in Aperture and Final Cut.
Thanks in advance...I don't see the 7300GT on Apple Store, but Nvidia specifies:
Dual-link DVI capability to drive the industry's largest and highest resolution digital flat panel displays up to 2560x16001
So if you plan on only using a single 30", you are fine, but if you feel you need an upgrade graphics, the Radeon 2600XT would be my first choice actually. People are generally happy as a replacement for 7300 or even x1900. The first revisions had a noisy fan, but so too would the 8800GT. Two dual link DVI ports
http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB198Z/A
Someone last night said their 7300 and 8800 'don't get along' and having trouble, though it seems it should but make sure you get the right card.
And there is the Radeon 3870.
http://www.barefeats.com/harper16.html
http://www.barefeats.com/harper15.html
Even the 2600 can be used if you have Leopard.
Comparing 2600 to 8800.
http://www.barefeats.com/harper8.html -
Geforce titan or quadro k4000?
Hello all -
I'm hoping to get a little help/clarification on which card would better suit my needs, and appreciate any/all help. I'm probably at an intermediate level of understanding when it comes to the technical aspects of computers, so some of the finer points escape me.
In short, i'm looking at two graphics cards to purchase as an upgrade: the geforce titan http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-titan/specifications or the quadro k4000 http://www.nvidia.com/object/quadro-desktop-gpus.html .
Currently, my setup is as follows:
Intel Motherboard Dual Socket Xeon S5520SC
Intel Xeon CPU Fan Heatsink STS100C
2 x 2.26GHz Intel "Nehalem" Xeon Quad Core [8MB]
12GB 1333MHz DDR3 Triple Channel SDRAM (6 x 2GB)
1TB High Speed Hard Drive [64MB Cache, 7200RPM]
StormDrive Dual Layer CD/DVD Writer
850W Silent Power Supply
Windows 7 Pro [64-bit]
NVIDIA Quadro FX 3800 Workstation Graphics Accelerator [1GB]
PCI 3 Port FireWire [TI Chipset]
(additional) 1TB High Performance Drive [64MB Cache SATA 3 6GB]
I use my workstation for projects and not gaming. And i used CS5 and Toon Boon Harmony as my two mediums for editing/creation. With CS5, it's my understanding that the quadro cards are preferred as they utilize some useful functions (such as mercury playback), and that they handle after effects better for the 3d issues. Conversely, Toon Boom Harmony suggests a geforce card over a quadro, as it corresponds with their software more "inherently" than a quadro. Granted, both programs would work well with either type of card, but is there one that is better fit to run both? And given my setup listed above, would the Titan card be massive overkill/be bottlenecked by slower components? Additionally, can anyone testify to a head to head matchup between these two cards?
Thanks.I listed observations and testing results. The editing applications that have GPU acceleration and perform better with Geforce cards are professional applications used in all the media content creation industry. Davinci and Adobe are far more prevalent now than what few applications that benefit from the Quadro Open GL plugins. GPU acceleration in general has supplanted Open GL as the primary GPU processing. Since it has, the raw specs of the cards decide the performance. This has been tested and shown with results by far more people than myself. So these are not opinions. The 700 series cards are showing greater performance than the previous gen Nvidia cards so obviously the cards were not limited that much if at all. The applications caching models are currently limiting the performance of the current cards as are the CPU's available. The CPU's themselves have to decode the data first that get's GPU processed and create all of the buffers that transit the data down to the GPU for processing. That is where the current limitation is for the GPU processing load. GPU-Z is reflecting this when monitoring the GPU load during application processing. Only certain codecs with resolutions greater than 2K such as red are using enough frame data to really push the cards. This points to applications limiting performance and not the hardware. There are far more applications now using GPU acceleration that gain the benefit from the specs of the cards than there are applications that take advantage of the Quadro Open GL plugins
Nothing you have mentioned supports any professional stability argument for the Quadro cards. I actually listed a current problem with the Quadro cards that effects any processing unit and that is heat. That has been observed in testing and long term support here with failed video cards. The Quadro k4000 series due to the single slot profile, limited cooling, and poor fan control has the highest failure rate. Those cards are averaging well over 80+C with GPU acceleration applications especially since they are using lower end GPU chips that are often at 75% load or greater. Time, experience, and results show the higher end Geforce cards have a higher stability probability due to heat generation and constant long term load percentage. The only reason scientific, medical, and engineering GPU acceleration applications are used with the Quadro cards is the ECC ram option. When processing data sets that take weeks to complete or have extremely high cost involved in research, errors due to GPU ram is not something those R&D entities want to risk. In those scenarios the Quadro cards are the best choice. That is the only stability based advantage the Quadro cards bring to the table. That however no real impact on media content creation which we are discussing in this forum.
Results and observations don't require a resume of experience to validate. Simply perform the testing as other have done like myself and list them here. I am stating results and observations that have been reported by many others so the validation is the simply the number of results that reflect the same data. If you disagree then report your results and let others either duplicate or disprove. That is not blind faith but simply data. Listing a bunch of marketing material as facts does nothing to validate your argument and are not facts as you state. They are marketing points that can be interpreted any number of ways hence the lack of any real value to the actual editors or content industry in general. -
Looking for how to run both a Quadro 4000 and a geforce card win7 please
hello,
way back when i built the window 7 editing rig i tried to get a quadro 4000 and a geforce 9800 GT (older version) to work together to get 4 displays going
but i had stability issues so i got another quadro and never had a problem
however, reading this recent thread
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/1258243?tstart=0
it sounds like users are able to mix quadro 4000 with geforce cards
using the geforce for the cuda processing and the quadro for the output
i still want to run 4 monitors (2 from the quadro 4000 and then 2 from the geforce card (open to suggestions here)
if i can mix cards now i'd like to get a geforce gpu to help out with 4k editing of a feature (probably red scarlet)
and use the quadro for 10bit output
as always positive feedback is appreciated, cheers, jhello,
no i am still sticking with cs6 for now
and i found where i had read the instructions before
(an answer to one of my own previously asked questions):
Install Quadro Driver full installation via Wizard.
Decompress Geforce Driver latest version but do not run Wizard install.
Manually update Geforce Card driver via Device manager by pointing to Nvidia/Geforce folder
Launch Nvidia Control Panel and set the GPU Acceleration to Geforce card only.
Eric
ADK
i guess this wraps this one up
thanks for taking the time to read
sorry for wasting your time
cheers, j -
CS4 and IGP Geforce 8200, not supported why?
Hey,
I have a motherboard with a Geforce IGP 8200 Chip.
The openGl is 3.0. So I think the opengl in Photoshop have to work or is the IGP to weak?
With a ATI 4670 it works fine and this card is not listed in the kb eather.
ThanksHey,
yes we are talking about CS4 and I updated everything: directX,
I have drivers for the IGP 8200/ 730a. The normal WHQ Driver 182.50 WHQL @ Nvidia has integrated the 8200.
And I have a normal motherboard ( ASROCk K10N78-1394):
Supported Cards:
GeForce 8400 GS
GeForce 8400
GeForce 8300 GS
GeForce 8300
GeForce 8200
GeForce 8100 / nForce 720a
GeForce 7950 GX2
GeForce 7950 GT
even with the nVidia nForce 15.26 driver (Version 15.26 for: nForce 980a, 780a, 750a, 730a ...) there is no chance. So I think the IGP are unsopported by Adobe? -
Powermac G5 & GeForce 6200 Do I Really Need To Flash The Card?
Here I go Again! I got a nice deal on a Powermac G5 1.8 & I would like to Upgrade the AGP Graphics Card. I have a Card that the sites say will work, but since it came out of my PC, they talk about needing to Flash The Card first. The procedure is a long winded one & I'm wondering if this is really needed. I don't want to just put the card in the G5 & have something fail. BTW. the Graphics Card is a Geforce 6200 DDR2 256MB AGP. The other thing that concerns me is the G5 takes DDR PC3200 Ram & this Graphics Card is DDR2. Will that make a difference? So does anyone have experience on this sort of thing? I would appreciate the Help. Thanks in advance.
The 256 MB of VRAM might run bigger or more Displays, but won't be any faster than a 64 MB card for that reason alone.
Which Video card is in it now?
At the Apple Icon at top left>About this Mac.
Then click on More Info>Hardware>Graphics/Displays and report like this...
NVIDIA GeForce 7800GT:
Chipset Model: GeForce 7800GT
Type: Display
Bus: PCI
Slot: SLOT-1
VRAM (Total): 256 MB
Vendor: nVIDIA (0x10de)
Device ID: 0x0092
Revision ID: 0x00a1
ROM Revision: 2152.2
Displays:
VGA Display:
Resolution: 1920 x 1080 @ 60 Hz
Depth: 32-bit Color
Core Image: Supported
Main Display: Yes
Mirror: Off
Online: Yes
Quartz Extreme: Supported
Display:
Status: No display connected -
Imac 2012 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX will it work with adobe Mercury playback Engine?
imac 2012, 28" 16 gigs ram
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 680MX 2 gigs ram, will it work with adobe Mercury playback Engine for accelerated rendering in Premiere Pro & After EffectsOne would certainly think so, since earlier, lesser GTX cards were supported...
http://www.adobe.com/products/premiere/tech-specs.html
Supported NVIDIA graphics cards for GPU acceleration
GeForce GTX 285 (Windows and Mac OS)
GeForce GTX 470 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 570 (Windows)
GeForce GTX 580 (Windows) -
Run nVidia GeForce 7800 GT on Mac G5 1.8 DP AGP
*HI all* anyone knows if it´s posible to run a nVidia GeForce 7800 GT on a MAC G5 1.8 DP. Now the machine runs a GeForce FX 5200:
Chipset: GeForce FX 5200
Tipo: Pantalla
Bus: AGP
Ranura: SLOT-1
VRAM (total): 64 MB
Can i upgrade to a nVidia GeForce 7800 GT
Quick Specs
Model
nVidia GeForce 7800 GT
Slot Compatibility
AGP 4x/8x
ROM (Firmware) Revision
v2152 (Newest)
VRAM
256MB 256-bit GDDR3
Memory Clock
700MHz (1,400MHz GDDR3)
GPU Clock
450MHz
Hardware Compatibility
Any 4x AGP G4 (Digital Audio, Quicksilver, Mirrored Drive Door, FireWire 800) or any G5 with an AGP slot
OS Compatibility
OS 9.2.2 (No 3D Acceleration), OS X Tiger 10.4.6 - 10.5 Leopard
Connectors
VGA, DVI-I (S-Video functionality is not available)
Display Modes
VGA, DVI, VGA+DVI, VGA+VGA (w/included adapter), Extended Desktop, Mirrored Display
Core Image Support
Yes
Quartz Extreme Support
Yes
Maximum Analog (CRT) Resolution
2048 x 1536 @ 85hz
Maximum DVI (LCD) Resolution
2560 x 1600 @ 60hz (up to 30 " Apple Cinema HD Display)
Condition
Brand New
Auction Includes
(1) Video Card, (1) DVI-VGA Adapter, (1) 12v Power Splitter
*THANKS !!!*According to your G5 specification the ATI Radeon 9800 XT with 256MB of DDR SDRAM will work.
+(Notice that there are few models of 9800 i.e.: 9800 64MB, 9800 128MB, 9800 Pro Mac Edition, and some of them are for the older computers)+
But the fastest card for your computer is Nvidia 6800 Ultra DDL or ATI X800XT.
The ATI you can find here:
http://eshop.macsales.com/item/ATI%20Technologies/100435338OB/
6800, usually is much more expensive and not easy to find.
Marek. -
PrPro 5.5 and nVidia GeForce 7600 GT - do they get along..?
This question should probably be directed to nVidia, but since I know that this forum is used by some very talented people, my hopes are that there's one out there that can help..:
After installing Premiere Pro 5.5, using 2 x nVidia GeForce 7600 GT GPUs, I've experienced multiple BSOD's while exporting HD footage from PP 5.5 through Adobe Media Encoder 5.5. Furthermore I've experienced several occations of my screens going black for a second, followed by a "Your GPU driver stopped working and was restarted" Windows message.
I suspected the problems to be related to the co-relation between PP 5.5 and my GPUs (the "driver stopped"-thing almost for certain) and by checking the Adobe GPU compliance list and not finding my GPU there, my suspicion was enhanced.
However, on its driver download site nVidia states that the latest driver 275.33 "Supports the new GPU-accelerated features in Adobe CS5". This statement is not limited to certain versions of GeForce GPU's, so I have to assume that it counts for the 7600 family as well.
So my questions are as follows:
• Am I right in assuming that my BSOD problems can be related to the GPU?
• If so: Keeping in mind that nVidia states that the 275.33 driver supports Adobe CS5's GUP accelerated features, is there any way around forging out a fortune on a new GPU to make things work as intended..?
My set-up:
CPU: AMD Athlon 64 x2 4200+ 2200 Mhz • Motherboard: M2N32-SLI Premium Vista Edition • RAM: 4 GB Kingston HyperX pc3200 • GPU: 2 x MSI NX7600GT Diamond Plus (Sli) • Harddisks: 4 x Hitachi SATA, total of 1360 GB • OS: Win 7, 64 bitArne,
Don't feel so bad about this. You're not alone in experiencing such indifferent support. AMD, the owner of ATi, is even rougher than Nvidia when it comes to support of older GPUs: AMD has ceased further driver releases for all of its GPUs older than the HD 2xxx series except for critical compatibility fixes (the so-called "legacy support" status), beginning with the Catalyst 9.4 drivers (which pre-date the release of Windows 7).
By the way, if you don't perform any tweaking or hacking (software-wise), the only Nvidia GPUs that are certified to run in GPU-accelerated mode in CS5.5 are:
GeForce GTX 285
GeForce GTX 470
GeForce GTX 570
GeForce GTX 580
Quadro FX 3700M
Quadro FX 3800
Quadro FX 3800M
Quadro FX 4800
Quadro FX 5800
Quadro 2000
Quadro 2000D
Quadro 2000M
Quadro 3000M
Quadro 4000
Quadro 4000M
Quadro 5000
Quadro 5000M
Quadro 5010M
Quadro 6000
Quadro CX
The other GeForce GPUs of the GeForce 8xxx or later series with 896MB or more RAM can be made to work in the GPU-accelerated mode in CS5.5 by modifying the cuda_supported_cards.txt file. Your 7600 GT will not work at all in that mode because not only the card has too little RAM, but is also too old.
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