General question and RAW Files

My apologies if this has been asked before, or if this is in the wrong forum, but I just couldn't find all the answers that I was looking for by searching the forums.
I am getting ready to purchase a new Mac Pro for my wife (and myself of course) because she has really gotten into digital photography. In addition, she has asked for a new high end Camera. Something that would let her enjoy her hobby to the fullest. Now I have a couple of questions I'm still looking for clarification on.
1. What exactly are RAW files, most of the other terminology she has thrown at me I have found the answers too and think I now understand. I am getting the feeling this is something that I should understand based upon what I have read but I just havn't found a clear definition.
2. Is there a good website that I can use to help educate myself in order to make informed decisions in purchasing a new camera and helping make full use of the new mac. I enjoy the help of the forums but I don't want to waste anyone's time when I can just 'RTFM' in a manner of speaking.
I have already bribed her to buy the mac, however I ask these questions due to the fact the camera is a surprise for her b-day so I don't want to just start asking her questions and give it away. I want to make sure I get the right camera the first time around.
Thanks for the help!
Home Grown Windows XP Pro

A raw file in essence saves the information differently, so you can make a photo mistake (underexpose for example) and correct it within reason on your computer. with other formats ie. jpg you get what you get, the information is embedded into your file and you really can't change anything. so if you have a really red photo, take it out in raw, but in jpg you can take it out but then it will replace with green. hard to explain the numbers are set in jpg, not so in raw. Or the underexposed example, in raw you play with the numbers and it can still come out good, in jpg format you do the same thing and the photo would lose crispness, lose saturation, and color, and would probably come out looking washed out.
There are standards starting in the RAW arena DNG and most programs do support it. and it is the way to go if you are considering high end photography, amatuer or not.
my latest complaint is that i was trying to utilize my TIFF files made from a raw format for some of these quickie projects. I'm having a bit of an output problem here with iphoto. But once solved will probably be fine. but no matter i would want HIGH input, so there is plenty of wiggle room for whatever output.
I have a D70 nikon... takes only 6.1 mp shots.. works great for my usage for now. cost is in the $1500 range. Best advice is pick a brand and stick with it. because once you start buying the lens's to go with the camera they don't alway work on other new digital bases from different brands. anything SLR is going to give you the same feel shooting from an old film based SLR. Some lens's will swap out. My old flashes from my older cameras work fine in digital.
No matter what you get, shooting in raw format takes up space. minimum 20mb per photo. retouch resize, and resave and you can get larger. And although the iphoto 6 does seem to be able to handle the large requirements, it seems they can't handle the quality that goes with it on the output end. Knowing what your output is going to be is important when managing your files (my newest lesson learned).

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