Generic Character Styles - highlight color

I am trying to create a Generic Character Style for changing the background color for highlighting text.
Problem:
What I have done is not generic. It changes font, size, bold etc. type characteristics to when I created the HILITEYELLOW Charater Style. I need a Generic character style that just changes the background color. No matter what multiple font or type characteristics are in the selected text, it just changes the background color.
What steps are necessary to create a Character style based on previous Character style None* so that it ONLY changes the background color and not touch the font and other characteristics?

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