Generic Data Source delta is not extracted

Hi,
There is a problem in extracting the delta records using Generic Data Source. Delta records ( New / Modified records ) are not posted in the RSA7.
I'll Explain you the Scenario I have done. Created a generic data source in R/3 using view. In the view there is a field Sales Order No. I have enabled the delta update for this field. In the generic delta i have chosen delta type as Numeric pointer.
Extracted the entire record using full update and after initializing the Delta, it extracts the delta record well ie. it only extracts the sequence of Sale Order No. First I extracted nine records(i.e 10001 to 10009) using full update. again I entered a record in underlying table with sale order no as 10011-10013. It extracts those records into BW system. Then again I made an entry in the table with sales order no 10010. But the record is not extracted. Even though I tried of specifying safety lower limit as -3. Still it not extracting the record(10010).
And what if I posted a value of sale order 10014 with the same. what should I do?? Help on this plz.
--Durai.S

Hi SVS,
Thanks for your reply.
I followed this in my scenario. But I don't understand why it is not extracting? even I specified the safety limit of upper and lower values in the generic delta.
Here the below explanation shows that the delta record can be extracted even if the pointer value is greater than the posted value.
Numeric pointer (last extracted value 10011; Data in underlying table (Max value = 10025) )
Data would be extracted from a min-value of 10010 (lower limit adjusts the last counter 10011 by specified value u2013 1)
max-value of 10020 (after adjustment for upper safety limit u2013 by 5). The current pointer would now indicate 10020 in
RSA7.
--Durai.S

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