Genius playlists question

Sorry if this has been asked before but I was wondering if there is a way to create playlists from the genius mixes. Like instead of just choosing a genius mix in itunes can you make it a playlist to use on your ipod?
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Like instead of just choosing a genius mix in itunes can you make it a playlist to use on your ipod?
Yes.
Use this script -> Dumb Down Genius Mix Playlist v1.2
"This script will copy the tracks of a playing Genius Mix playlist to a new "dumb" (regular) playlist, which, for example, can be copied/sync'd to older iPods that do not accommodate Genius Mixes. You can subsequently copy the contents of additional Genius Mix playlists to the new playlist, refill it, or create more. (Each Genius Mix playlist only contains about 70 tracks maximum, which is why you may have several, say, "Rock Mix" playlists.)"

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Genius playlist question(just curious)...

I was curious how exactly the Genius playlist function works, specifically what criteria it uses in selecting songs. I ask, because I've made several Genius playlists, and I notice some of the same songs keep popping up again and again? Also, it seems to favor songs I've purchased from the iTunes store. I thought that it only selected such songs, but I noticed it had also selected a handful of songs from other sources(imported CDs, songs downloaded from websites, etc.).
Also, is there a way to get it to use songs that aren't checked? I have two iPods, a 4GB nano(2nd gen) and an 80 GB classic. I use the "only sync checked" function for the nano, and I sync everything for the classic. I have more than 7,000 songs, and I don't want to have to go through them one by one, checking and unchecking, just to get Genius to consider every song. (and no, I don't want to use a different method to synch my iPods, the way I do it works great for me)

It only uses checked songs.
As for how it works, I'm sure that's Apple's secret and they intend to keep it that way...
Since you're not open to leaving all songs checked and just syncing selected playlists to the nano, you might try a 2nd library ITL file to build Genius playlists. You can then export them to XML format, and import them into your current ITL file.

Basic Questions about Genius Mixes vs Genius Playlists

I'm new to the Genius feature of iTunes, and I would just like a clarification. Please confirm and deny this basic understanding of what I think I've learned about how Genius works.
In another thread that I read, I think that it was mentioned that there is a difference between what Apple calls a "Genius Mix" and a "Genius Playlist." That distinction was lost on me in Apple's documentation, but someone here mentioned that they are not the same thing, which explained why, during iTunes' initial creation of Genius Mixes I could discover no corresponding Genius Playlist(s).
From what I can gather, Genius Playlists are the song lists which I, a user, can create in iTunes by selecting any song in my library as the seed and clicking on the Genius button. Those song lists can then be used as the basis for playlists which I can create and add to other playlists that I can create without using the Genius feature. Right?
In contrast, Genius Mixes are song lists that Apple generates over which I have no control and apparently cannot generate a playlist that I can save, for I cannot see which songs are included in any of the twelve various mixes (based on genres in my library) that Apple creates. Is that correct, or am I missing something here?
Ideally, I guess that I'd like to be able to see what songs are coming up in the Genius Mixes. I'd like to know if there are some hidden commands to allow me to generate such a list, which must be in a database somewhere in iTunes, that I can easily access, or not. But, if that is not possible, let me know, then I'll just relax and take what comes randomly as a surprise.
I guess that a question related to this might be: Are the Genius Mixes which iTunes generates fixed, in the sense that everytime I open iTunes, any given mix will start over at the first song its presumably invisible, inaccessible list? Or, does iTunes shuffle the deck of my Genius Mixes each time it loads? Since I apparently have no way to see the items in any Genius Mix, how can I ever know how many items in any given genre's mix? How will I ever get to the end of that mix?

Thanks for the dialogue, guys. You've both filled in some key pieces that were missing from my previously unsophisticated use of iTunes.
Until dknightd mentioned the iTunes DJ technique, I had not tried that feature out. What a great feature to use all by itself, as well as a complement to the Genius function!
My initial exploration of the iTunes DJ features shows it to be technique in which I can use the pull-down menu to draw upon several of iTunes lists (i.e., its internal data bases) as the sources of a DJ playlist, with the Genius Mixes being only one of those sources.
My initial tests, however, indicated that the playlist generated by using a Genius Mix did not reveal a close enough correlation to the songs which the selected Genius Mix actually played. And, as Chris CA points out, neither was there much of a correlation, if any at all, in regards to the play order. So, as a method for pre-viewing, or monitoring, which songs any Genius Mix was playing, or was going to play, I did not find the iTunes DJ feature to be that reliable.
However, the very fact that the iTunes DJ feature is drawing upon a selected Genius Mix as the source for the playlist is quite valuable, for that playlist gives me all the information I need to be able to preview and monitor a selection of songs stylistically associated with each other, in accordance with whatever programming algorithms govern the selections made by the Genius feature.
Seeing a list of songs in the iTunes DJ window that was generated by drawing upon a Genius Mix gives me options I did not know that I had. I have learned that I can either switch over to the iTunes DJ feature and play the songs in the its viewable list, which gives me a measure of control over what I hear, or I can continue to be surprised by what the Genius Mix will play for me, without my knowing what's coming.
As to creating a playlist based on a Genius Mix itself, I also know now that I have at least two options: (1) I can create a playlist in real time based on the songs which appear in the iTunes DJ window; or (2) I can go to the Music window of all songs, sort it by songs Last Played, and create a playlist of songs that any given Genius Mix has previously played.
Both of those options give me lot more power and flexibility in getting the most out of this really neat digital jukebox that Apple designed. Thanks for the enlightening tips.
I'll leave this thread open for additional contributions on this topic by others.

I don't seem to have the genius playlist option on my iPod touch 5th generation-what to I do???

I didn't jailbreak my ipod or download any pirated stuff. I actually only found out that my ipod should have the genius playlist option after reading a review on it. But when I checked under playlists in my music app, only the 'purchased' playlist is showing. What do I do to get the genius playlist?????

Hi prefdave,
I apologize, I'm a bit unclear on the exact nature of your question. If you are talking about Genius playlists or Genius Mixes and syncing them to your iPod Touch, you may find the following articles helpful:
iPhone and iPod: Understanding Genius Mixes
iTunes 11 for Mac: Use Genius Shuffle, Genius playlists, or Genius Mixes
Regards,
- Brenden

How many songs needed to create a Genius playlist?

I was wondering if there is any rule of thumb about how many songs I would need on my iphone to create a Genius playlist. I currently have 1566 songs, but I ususally get the same old message about not having enough songs to create a list. I have many similar artists--sometimes more than one album by that artist, but it's rare that I can get Genius to work. I do occasionally get a list.
iPhone 5 with iOS 7
Related question--have just started playing around with the radio on iOS 7, but I haven't found an artist yet that lets me create a station. I assume they have very few artists signed up so far? Can't give up Pandora yet!
Diana

have you tried connecting it to itunes? i know when you sync it to itunes sometimes it downloads genius information...
i have 2355 songs on my itunes.

Genius playlist and i phone 5

I can't get my genius playlist's to sync from my mac to my i phone 5. Running the latest IOS 7.0.4. Any suggestions?

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How do i create and save a genius playlist in iTunes 12?

I can see my genius playlists from older versions of iTunes but I can't figure out how to make a new one!

Hi there Michael Moriconi,
You may find the information about Genius Playlists in the User Guide below helpful.
Use Genius Shuffle, Genius playlists, or Genius Mixes - iTunes Help
Create a Genius playlist
Create a Genius playlist: Move the pointer over a song, click , and choose Create Genius Playlist.
Change the maximum number of songs in a Genius playlist: Click next to the song total and choose a number from the pop-up menu.
Get new songs based on the same song: Click Refresh .
A Genius playlist has this icon next to it.
-Griff W.

Can I move my external drive library in order to create a Genius playlist?

Our iTunes library is stored on an external hard drive, and the computer we use it with is a desktop G3 (stop laughing) running OSX 10.3.9 (OK, really, stop laughing) and the latest version of iTunes I can use with that, iTunes 7 (end of comedy routine). Of course, this is the wife's computer which she only uses for email & internet, so it hasn't been a problem so far.
I would like to create some Genius playlists for that library utilizing my laptop which has 10.5.6 and iTunes 8.0.2.
Is it possible for my to connect the hard drive to my laptop and access that library in my laptop's iTunes for the purpose of creating some Genius playlists that would then be available back on the G3? It would be sweet if this wouldn't affect the laptop's small library stored on it's internal hard drive and in the default iTunes directory as well.
Thanks!

Actually you can store just some, but you always have to remember to option+drag in the future for those media:
Small hard drive? Split your iTunes library across multiple volumes - http://www.macyourself.com/2009/04/24/small-hard-drive-split-your-itunes-library -across-multiple-volumes/
Splitting & Managing Your iTunes Library - http://machintsandtips.com/i-j-k/itunes/splitting-managing-your-itunes-library/ - using option+drag to override iTunes from copying file to your default media folder.

I have a generation 5 Nano iPod. I have created Genius playlists and want to sync them to my iPod. How do I do this, as they are not shown in my library when syncing my music.

I have a generation 5 Nano iPod. I have created suggested playlists from the iTunes store using Genius. I want to move these playlists into the playlists in my library so they can be synced to my iPod. I don't seem to be able to do this, and can only listen to these Genius playlists on my computer. How do I transfer these?

On a 5th gen nano, you can actually create and listen to Genuis playlists on the iPod.
You can also set up automatic syncing to include Genius Playlists.
In iTunes, if the iTunes sidebar (along left side of window) is hidden, from the menu bar, under View, select Show Sidebar. In the sidebar, the Genuis playlists that you create are shown under GENIUS (not PLAYLISTS).
If you use automatic syncing, you set up the iPod's Music screen in iTunes (where the Sync Music checkbox is located). Genius playlists are shown on the iPod's Music screen, under Playlists, where you can select (checkmark) them as items to be synced to the iPod and maintained by iTunes.
If you use the manual method (with the Manually manage music and videos setting), there is no way to include the actual Genius playlists. However, you can create a new playlist manually on the iPod using iTunes. Then, drag the songs from a Genius playlist to that playlist on the iPod.

The Genius playlist and the 1st Generation ipod touch

I am just wondering, is the genius playlist ability not available to the 1st Generation iPod touch or does it only work on certain songs?
Because it would be really annoying if they limited to the 2nd Generation iPod touch only.

Another post here said to just go ahead and resync your iPod and it should start working. And it did for me. If that does not work make sure that genius is enabled on your iTunes, otherwise it will not add the functionality to your iPod.
Hope that helps

My iPod no longer appears as folder/file in Itunes when connected. Library, genius, playlists, etc. are present, but there is no longer cross reference with the iPod itself. Help!?

My iPod no longer appears as folder/file in Itunes when connected. Library, genius, playlists, etc. are present, but there is no longer cross reference with the iPod itself. Help!?

I just tried it again and this time a different message showed up "The iPod 'name' cannot be synced. The required folder cannot be found." I have no clue what folder it could be talking about.

Error in the iphone music app iOS7 with dozens of empty genius playlists

Im getting an error in the iphone music app in iOS7 with dozens of empty genius playlists even tho genius is OFF in my account settings and genius playlists are not selected for syncing with my iphone 5. All apps, iTunes and iOS 7 are updated.
The option to turn off genius under STORE menu is no longer available in the latest version of iTunes 11.1.
Thanks.

Love your comment:
"Oddly the option to Delete is, get this, under Save:"
LOL!!!!!!!!!
This is just nuts!
Whoever heard of hitting SAVE to DELETE something....Ha Ha Ha!!!
The lunitics are officially running the asylum.....who knows whet they will do next.
Design cars where you need to engage reverse to access drive.
Many thanks this worked for me and I would NEVER have found it without you.
I would NEVER have hit Save to Delete something...And I mean NEVER!
Maybe if I hit Cancel button below this text box, it will save the contents for me..... Unbelievable!!!

Turned off Genius, how do I restore Genius playlists from ipod to my iTunes

Hi,
I turned off Genius in iTunes by accident and my Genius playlists have been deleted. They are still on my iPod. I'd like to know if they will automatically sync back to iTunes when I connect my iPod or have I lost them for good?
Many thanks

Transfer iTunes purchases:
iTunes Store: Transferring purchases from your iOS device or iPod to a computer
For other music you need a thrid-party program like one of those discussed here:
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How can I have both genius playlist and regular playlist on my new 160g ipod classic. The list of songs are there, but when I click playlist, I only get the genius playlists.

How can I have both genius playlists and regular playlists available on my new 160g classic ipod. I can see my entire song list, but no playlist other than the 3 genius playlist I just made. Also how can I delete a genius playlist. Made the same playlist twice by mistake. Thanks.

This was not a simple task. Got it handled. Had to call Apple support. Apparently, the 160g only syncs the genius playlist. You have to go in and "tell it" to sync the entire playlist as well as the genius playlists. There is also an option for only syscing certain songs. On itunes, there is two sections; one for the stuff that is synced on your ipod and another separate list for the stuff in your library! This is exciting for me as I am not computer savvy to say the least.

Genius Playlists on iPad

I have recently noticed that there are about 8 or so Genius Playlists on my iPad without me ever having created them. I haven't turned on Genius, nor iTunes Match and would like to know why they got on there and how I can delete them.

I had the same problem and I will try to share with you what I did to get rid of them - if I can remember . Bear with me.
Tap on one of the playlists and then tap Edit in the next window. After that tap Save. Then go back to the Playlists tab and hold down on the icon and the X to delete should pop up.
I know it was some combination of choosing Edit and then Save. Maybe my sequence isn't correct but give it a try and see what happens

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