"Genius" told me I fried both Xeon Processors in my Mac Pro

So I've been having a couple problems with my Mac Pro. Sometimes when turning on the MP or when coming out of sleep mode the display won't come on. Tested the display and cables on other machines and it works fine. I'm able to turn off the computer blind (control+eject, return) so I assumed it was the graphics card (ATI Radeon HD 2600) but before I replaced it I decided to take it to the Genius Bar to have it looked at.
The Genius told me the fans were running high when he powered it up and said that wasn't good then after a brief reboot (while holding optioncommand+UP, whatever that does) he said I fried both processors, and yes he figured it out that fast.
I take good care of this machine cleaning it out with canned air once every other week and I don't use my MP for anything heavy duty that would fry the state of the art processor, I have the Adobe CS4 master collection but really only use Photoshop, Dreamweaver and Flash. I also have Logic Express and Office but that's about it for major software.
First question (that I didn't ask because I was floored by him telling me this) is that I have the 2.8Ghz Quad-Core Intel Xeon, doesn't that only have one processor? How did I fry BOTH of them when I thought there was only one?
I did ask how this is possible and he just said "there are a lot of ways it could have happened", then suggests I sell my MP on Ebay and buy a new one because its going to cost me $2000 to fix it. Now why would I buy a brand new one if the high-end processors can just fry for no reason?
So anyway, I get the MP home trying to figure out what to do. I take it half apart and give it a good cleaning, plug it in and BAM working fine. So obviously not the processor like the "genius" told me in his 5 minute examination.
So my main question is any idea's on what this could be AND what apps/software can I use to help pinpoint problems like this?

Fans always run high when you first power it on. It's normal, just the system testing itself out.
There is Hardware that turns the fans on maximum at startup, and keeps turning them back to maximum. If the system is working, the processor reads the temperatures (in the processors and various parts of the cabinet) and takes action to turn down any fans that are running too high for current conditions. It has to keep coming back and telling them to slow down -- if the processor halts, the fans go back to maximum within a few seconds.
I think the "genius" concluded that if the fans did not turn down right away, "your processors were fried." That is way too simple an explanation. There are lots of problems that could cause the fans to keep running on high. Also, I am not sure how many Mac Pros these guys actually see.

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System Version:               OS X 10.8 (12A269)
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Total Number of Cores:      8
L2 Cache (per Processor):   12 MB
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Bus Speed:                         1.6 GHz
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SMC Version (system):          1.25f4
Serial Number (system):         Xxxxxxxxxxx
Hardware UUID:                    20D0D8B4-FE08-51EC-850F-A66BFBF9BC3B
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Chipset Model:          ATI Radeon HD 5870
Type:                         GPU
Bus:                              PCIe
Slot:                              Slot-1
PCIe Lane Width:          x16
VRAM (Total):               1024 MB
Vendor:                         ATI (0x1002)
Device ID:                        0x6898
Revision ID:                    0x0000
ROM Revision:               113-C0780C-194
EFI Driver Version:          01.00.436
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LCD2690WUXi:
Resolution:                    1920 x 1200 @ 60 Hz
Pixel Depth:                    32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Display Serial Number:   83107092YB
Main Display:               Yes
Mirror:                         Off
Online:                         Yes
Rotation:                         Supported
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Display Type:               LCD
Resolution:                   1680 x 1050
Pixel Depth:               32-Bit Color (ARGB8888)
Mirror:                         Off
Online:                         Yes
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hello I am in Afghanistan i searched that in realtek but that told me you coulde not use this sit
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but there is no sound in windows 7 please send me a address sit for downoad driver that i can use in Afghanistan
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hello I am in Afghanistan i searched that in realtek but that told me you coulde not use this sit
I writ again my problem
i installed win 7 32 bit in my mac pro 13-inch, Late 2011 Processor 2.4 GHz Intel Core i5 Software Mac OS X Lion 10.7.2 (11C74)
but there is no sound in windows 7 please send me a address sit for downoad driver that i can use in Afghanistan
believe it is confus me and other friend that bought 5 mac's that are the same and i serched a lot of site without result

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