Genres Bug

Minor bug in the iPod app on the iPhone (or at least on my iPhone). You have to have music with a defined genre BUT all the music in that genre has no defined artist. If you select "More", and then "Genre", and then that genre with no artists defined, iPhone claims you have no music in that genre at all.
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It is best to actually provide something for artist,
even if it is "Unknown". The same goes for album.
Empty albums and artists don't get listed when there
is an album or artist list.
But that doesnt seem to be the way that it should work. If I want to see ALL the songs of a genre, regardless of any other info, it should show them, no ?

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"Genre" for most of my music is "unknown"

I made a huge mistake a couple weeks ago: While attempting to set the EQ for all my music to "Rock", I somehow changed all my music's genres to "unknown". I have spent countless hours renaming genres, but it will take forever. I'm thinking it was about the time the version of itunes with the "genre" bug came out. Is there any way iTunes can be set to do this automatically? Or just a faster way than going down through my music list of 500 albums to change each one from unknown to rock, pop, country etc.? please help.

I have tried exactly that, and I still do not have a clear response or reasoning....

A BUG in the Genres and Rankings for Auto Playlists

I recently spent too much time ranking each of my many songs on my iTunes hoping to set up auto-playlists that will contain my favorite songs among various genres. However, when i went to create an auto playlist with more than one genre at a ranking, say, greater than 1 star, no songs would appear on my auto playlist.
however, when i tried the converse, and selected genres NOT to be included in the auto list at a ranking greater than 1 star, i was able to create my desired auto playlist. Doing this procedure among 20 or so genres, however, is needlessly tediously.
I would like for Apple to please fix this bug in the software.
thank you
dell Windows XP Pro

eh, I don't think it's a bug.
Match ALL of the rules
Genre=Jazz
Genre=Alternative
Sure, you'll get an empty playlist.
If you change it to Match ANY of the rules, you'll get songs from both genres.
But I do know what you're saying, other people have wanted the playlists to have an OR function.
You can get what you want in two steps
Match ANY
Genre=Jazz
Genre=Alternative
call this playlist "Favorite Genres" for example.
Then have another playlist
Match ALL
playlist= Favorite Genres
My Rating is greater than 1 star
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5310 - Genre and WMA - bug???

Having recently come across the 5310 (FW 10.10) bug where the music player resets when a playlist contains more than 4096 songs, I have been trying to deal with this by using the otherwise-not-that-useful-to-me "genre" field to divide my huge playlist up into smaller chunks that the music player can deal with.
However, I have run into a surprising problem. The music player is picking up the genre field from any MP3-encoded file, but is not picking up the genre field in any WMA-encoded file. I wondered if this was a feature of the ID3 tag utility I use (mp3tag) but the Windows Explorer 'properties' right-click-thing sees the two genre fields as identical so I suspect it is not this.
So is this another bug in the music player? Can other people who use WMA format files confirm whether or not their genres's appear properly?
Is there a formal mechanism for reporting these bugs?
Andy

From my experience with my N82 and WMA files the best way to tag WMA files is with Windows Media Player's "ADVANCED TAG EDITOR". using the ID3 tags usually works best with MP3 format files, SOmetimes My phone can't read the Artist field on WMA files untill I use Media Player to change it to the same value(name).
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ITunes 9.2 - Genre Setting Bug

Has anyone worked a way to stop iTunes automatically choosing Genres for songs - when the chosen Genre contains a number in it's name ?
e.g. Rock 90's will set itself to Folk or Avantgarde .... ?
Only seems to be a bug with Genre's that contain numbers. VERY VERY Annoying when you use Genres extensively.....

Looks like iTunes 9.2 is reading the first few characters of the Genre and intrepreting it as one of the pre-defined genres used in the ID3v1 specification.
If you re-apply the desired genre it may stick. If not, then the problem might be that the file in question has both an ID3v1.x & ID3v2.x tag, which is allowed by the specfification, but not well supported by iTunes. I think that in some circumstances iTunes may update the v2.x tag, but then re-read the unedited v1.x information.
The workaround will be to Convert ID3-Tags > None two or three times, then Convert ID3-Tags > v2.3. Don't use v2.4, as as fara as I'm aware, this too seems to not be properly supported by iTunes.
tt2

Multiple Artist, Genre... Separator (Semi-Colon) instead of Smart Playlists

In my opinion, one of the greatest features of ID3 tags is the ability to use semi-colons to differentiate between multiple artists, genres, albums, etc... for any given field. This feature has been available since ID3 tags for MP3's were first implemented over a decade ago.
With Windows Media Player 10, it's database was finally able to parse the information separated by semi-colons correctly. What this means is that if I have a song like "Picture" by Sheryl Crow and Kid Rock, in the ID3 tag, I type "Sheryl Crow; Kid Rock", and in WMP, if I click on Artist | Sheryl Crow, "Picture" appears. And if I click on Artist | Kid Rock, "Picture" appears. In fact, when I rip songs using WMP, it places semi-colons in numerous ID3 fields from the album description.
In iTunes, however, when I import a song with a semi-colon in an ID3 tag field, the database reads the artist as "Sheryl Crow; Kid Rock", or essentially, it treats "Sheryl Crow; Kid Rock" as a THIRD artist. The same is true if I have a song that I feel crosses two genres--like "Picture". In WMP, if I put in the Genre field "Pop; Country", when I choose Genres | Pop, "Picture" appears, and when I choose Genres | Country, "Picture" appears.
Does anyone know if a bug fix for this is in the works for iTunes? It seems Apple and iTunes have been trying to push Smart Playlists for this kind of organization, but that's the poor man's way of organizing songs and not nearly as efficient. I don't want to have to create Smart Playlist for all songs with "Sheryl Crow" in the artist field. It should be inherent based on the semi-colon.
Does anyone know if anything smarter than Smart Playlists is in the works that matches the intuitiveness of Windows Media Player's database?
Thanks,
Bill

Whereas in WMP & the ID3 spec. you would use a semi-colon to separate items you will find that iTunes & the Music store use a slash instead. However as you so rightly say iTunes takes the information and construes a new artist entity rather than two artists connected to the same track. (WMP might also respond to slash - I recall AC/DC always presenting issues so they exist as AC-DC in my library.)
If you'd like to make feature request go to: iTunes Feedback.
Working on the assumption that such ideas are unlikely to implemented any time soon however you might like to see my post on Grouping Tracks Into Albums which covers workarounds for this & other quirks.
tt2

How do I stop i-tunes from changing the genres for my songs without my consent?

Lately, itunes has been taking the genres I've set for my songs and changing them without my consent or say so. I change them back to what I want, i-tunes changes it back to what it wants, etc..
For example, I might list something as "Rock", but i-tunes decides it's "Pop" or "Alternate Rock" and edits my file's meta-data unilaterally. I might decide I want a category called "Christmas Music", but i-tunes decides the genre is "Holiday Music". I even have a few songs labeled "Urban", and i-tunes tries to change them to "Hip-Hop/Rap" or "Rap/Hip-hope". I took a lot of time with my large music collection to get this stuff exactly the way I wanted it- simplified. I-tunes is screwing it up.
This is *my* music. I even bought it all legally on a limited budget. I get to decide what genre I want it listed as.
Is there a setting or something I can change to get i-tunes to stop messing my music genre data? Or do I have to find a new music player?
I've got a long suffering ipod classic I was thinking of replacing at some point, but I may leave the i-tunes ecosystem entirely over this instead. To make things worse, my ipod with it's troubled syncing and broken buttons now has to deal with constantly recopying files with new genres every time I sync and itunes or I have changed something in our constant man versus machine battle- just try have hundreds of songs recopied each time without an error on something that barely can handle normal syncing after reconnecting 10 times or so every sync because it doesn't take the first 9 times.
I don't want to fight my music player. I just want the thing to work and do what I instruct it to do. Either that or I'm going to have to rename it "HAL" and start calling myself "Dave" ala 2001: A Space Odessy. Because this thing seems to be turning on me.

Ugh. I thought I was exagerating when I said song name changes were next. Apparently, I was literally correct. I haven't seen it yet personally, but Tooltomus says he has.
I thought the genre changes had stopped, only to see that they'd started up again a few minutes ago. This is getting really old really fast.
Again, why does Apple seem to think it can do whatever it wants to our bought and paid for music without our permission? This isn't about interface changes or whatever, which are all well within their rights, but to actually alter our files themselves without asking or even notifying us. They've got to be kidding... Isn't there some way to turn this off?
Why are they doing this? What's the point of it? Is it intentional or some kind of bug? Is anyone from Apple going to bother to even tell us?
I feel like I had some great music software and a great music player. I've used them for hours every day for years. I really love smart playlists and a whole bunch of features. It's very upsetting to see them go in this direction.
You know, record companies and music sellers have been pushing the idea of legally purchased files for years, saying it's just the same as CDs or whatever. And I've been dutifully buying my files this whole time from various legal sellers instead of pirating them. And now they're basically doing the equivalent of breaking into my home and messing around with my CDs- scrobbling all over the covers and album booklets, etc..
Why even have a genre setting the user can change if the program is going to keep overriding it and change genres? Why even have a song setting the user can change if the program is going to keep overriding it and change song titles? What happens when the program gets something wrong?
Anyone know how to turn this off? Would going back to itunes 10 help or is this coming from the server to every version of itunes? Is there other music player software that will leave my music alone that will preserve my playcounts, ratings, playlists, last played, and so on and so forth, and support syncing to my ipod? Can I somehow cut itunes off from contacting apple's servers to look up information and make these changes?

ITunes 11 - how can I change the genre of a movie now?

So I've had iTunes 11 for about 3 hours now and so far it *****. One of my main problems is I can't find how I can change the genre of a movie anymore. I used to do this from Get Info so I could organise all my movies in to my own genres that make sense to me which helps me find what I want to watch when using Apple TV.
It will still let me do that for movies I bought before I "upgraded" to 11 but for the movies I bought this evening, after upgrading, the genre drop down is locked down.
Am I just looking in the wrong place? Or have Apple somehow got the idea that pointlessly preventing your customers from organising their content in their own way is somehow an improvement and I'm stuck with their nonsensical genre classifications?
Same thing goes for movie titles now I think of it - I've edited movie titles after purchase (e.g. I've put HP1 in front of the title of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone and HP2 in front of Chamber of Secrets) so that series list in watching order, rather than alphabetical order, on my Apple TV. It's not letting me do that from Get Info either
Please someone tell me I'm just doing it wrong - I don't think I've the patience to jump through the hoops necessary to get 10.7 back!

I had the same bug in songs. It was directly related to tracks purchased in the iTunes store, they wouldn't allow any changes, it was all grayed out.
Here's how I got around it. When I selected more than one item and any other item was not from the iTunes store it would allow me to Get Info and change everything with no problems.
My suggestion is that if you need to, add in a movie from your hard drive (anything at all, it will be a dummy placeholder) that you can you use to select along with the one you need to change. Use command click to select non-contiguous files (even works in different genres), then get info (or command i) and then change your info. You can keep using the same dummy file for as long as you need to to fix the files with incorrect info, then delete it when done.

When using just Apple TV, how can I change the Genre of a movie?

It's using iCloud and some of the movie genre's make no sense. For example, Elvira: Mistress of the Dark is listed as Horror, but Elvira's Haunted Hills is showing as Comedy.
I do realize that Elvira Movies are generally listed as Comedy/Horror on IMDB, and that's fine. However I'd prefer to have these movies listed together properly when looking at movies by Genre.
Additionally, The Lost Boys is listed as a Comedy where as it really should be a horror film. It's humor is secondary after all.
Is there a way for me to change, individually, my movies genre? I don't care if it affects anyone else or not, it just doesn't help me to have them so disjointed. This is only using Apple TV and the movies that stream directly from iTunes central database, not anything located on my personal devices (I can change those just fine locally and they will show up correctly if I just look at it via a computer connection.

I had the same bug in songs. It was directly related to tracks purchased in the iTunes store, they wouldn't allow any changes, it was all grayed out.
Here's how I got around it. When I selected more than one item and any other item was not from the iTunes store it would allow me to Get Info and change everything with no problems.
My suggestion is that if you need to, add in a movie from your hard drive (anything at all, it will be a dummy placeholder) that you can you use to select along with the one you need to change. Use command click to select non-contiguous files (even works in different genres), then get info (or command i) and then change your info. You can keep using the same dummy file for as long as you need to to fix the files with incorrect info, then delete it when done.

A small bug in Windows Media Player 12 on Windows 8.1 and Windows 7

First of all, do excuse me as I have absolutely no idea where to go to report bugs in either Windows Media Player, or the Microsoft's Media Foundation filters that most probably handle the actual parsing and decoding. I see that some related bug reports
have gotten noticed here on the Technet forums, and thus ended up writing here.
Some time ago I helped a fellow internet user to update his encoding pipe line from quite an older version of ffmpeg and libx264 to a newer one. After some testing, I noticed him being unhappy with the result because of "black borders" around the
video clip, but only in WMP12, not in other players. Being interested in what this was, I went on and started checking out the behavior.
What I found out is that, with the newer ffmpeg and libx264, WMP12 was only seeing the video resolution (which was 1440x1080) at first, and resized/matched the player window according to that. Only after that did it then, within this window, actually show
the video and apply the correct aspect ratio to it (4:3 sample/pixel aspect ratio, or 16:9 display aspect ratio). In other words, the video would play correctly, but within a 4:3 display aspect ratio video surface, leading to black bars on the top and the
bottom.
Now, if you manually resize the window, the black borders would of course go away. This is because they were not part of the video, but just something the player had based its window size calculations on originally. With the older ffmpeg + libx264 mix
things would Just Work, and the auto-sizing worked.
So I went off to look up all the data in the files that could relate to aspect ratio :) .
[tkhd: Track Header Box] in the container has the width and height set to 1920x1080 in both files, so this is most probably ignored
[pasp: Pixel Aspect Ratio Box] in the container is only present in the new one, and thus most probably ignored. hSpacing and vSpacing are set to 4 and 3, thus becoming 4:3 (this is the
pixel or sample aspect ratio, so this is correct for 1440x1080 to be shown as 16:9). This information, if available, should trump the aspect ratio information in the stream (a quote from ISO/IEC 14496-12: "These
(pasp and clap boxes) are both optional; if present, they over-ride the declarations (if any) in
structures specific to the video codec, which structures should be examined if these boxes are absent.") .
In the actual AVC/H.264 stream both files have aspect_ratio_idc set. The older file has the value set to 255 (Extended_SAR structure follows), and Extended_SAR then contains sar_width set to 4 and sar_height set to 3. On the newer file, on the other hand,
we have a value of 14. Looking at the H.264 specification, value 14 is defined as "4:3 , 1440x1080 16:9 frame without horizontal overscan"
So... Since the pasp box seems to be completely irrelevant and ignored, and since the tkhd box contains exactly the same information in both cases and thus seems to be ignored, the only thing that comes to mind is that:
Only the information from the AVC/H.264 video stream is actually taken into mention at this stage.
The AVC/H.264 video stream parser does not know the aspect_ratio_idc value 14.
I haven't actually tried to change the values in the parameter set's VUI parameters around to be sure of this being the reason, but, unless WMP misunderstands what the pasp box's value means (4:3 read as the aspect ratio for the whole picture, instead of
one sample/pixel), that's the only reason I can see this happening because of.
A small sample mp4 file for this issue is provided at fushizen.eu/samples/wmp12_mp4/merry_christmas.mp4 . Having the automatic zoom set to 50% does help replicating it with smaller displays :) . WMP will resize its video window to a 4:3 display aspect ratio,
and then show the 16:9 display aspect ratio content within that. This happens with both Windows 8.1 as well as Windows 7, on Windows Media Player 12.
Now, if the issue is actually on ffmpeg's or libx264's side, feel free to note the technical problems with the sample, and I will review and then report them if I see the related specifications agreeing on the issue. So far this seems to be purely a problem
with the related Media Foundation filters, and/or Windows Media Player 12.

I have a lot of grief with this version of Windows Media Player.
It is very buggy and frustrating to use.
I have my Music library on a QNAP NAS, which is as reliable as they come.
System notifications make it not save changes. It also does not do a good job of interpreting albums and artists from folders. Changes to track names are not saved, nor are tracks moved to other albums, renamed albums, changes to genre, artist
or date. It separates and merges albums/tracks without sense or reason. Some changes I've made up to 4 times, then closed WMP and re-started my machine to check if it has/hasn't saved the changes. Often it has not.
This is the first time I've used WMP in this capacity, and I do not recommend it.
New service pack please.

Has anyone got a workaround for the iTunes 12 sorting movies bug?

I have movies in various playlists in my iTunes 12.0.1 library with various metadata and nice artwork added.
When selecting sort by 'Genre', 'Sort Albums by Title' or sort by 'Albums' then 'Sort by Title' (both of these sorting options to enable browsing using the artwork) the movies are not sorted by title.
They are sorted by 'director' metadata, which is not my intended outcome. It looks like iTunes is treating movies like music and sorting by artist/director.
Even adding 'sort name' doesn't fix this. Does anyone know a workaround to this?
I have submitted a bug report to Apple.

I have movies in various playlists in my iTunes 12.0.1 library with various metadata and nice artwork added.
When selecting sort by 'Genre', 'Sort Albums by Title' or sort by 'Albums' then 'Sort by Title' (both of these sorting options to enable browsing using the artwork) the movies are not sorted by title.
They are sorted by 'director' metadata, which is not my intended outcome. It looks like iTunes is treating movies like music and sorting by artist/director.
Even adding 'sort name' doesn't fix this. Does anyone know a workaround to this?
I have submitted a bug report to Apple.

Is this a bug in ipod software or am i doing something wrong?

I got my ipod video a few weeks ago and was excited to be able to carry all 7000+ songs around in one place.. but then i ran into this problem and i'm not sure if it's a bug or if i'm doing something wrong.
let's say i have exactly one album by an artist.. and i also happen to have some singles from the artist, with no album set... (i prefer not to have albums set for songs i don't have the entire album for, to keep from having to sort through a truckload of albums i don't completely have).
when i browse by artist, and i select the artist, only the songs in the album shows up, all the non-album labeled songs are not visible! the same thing happens when i choose by genre..
in fact the only way to find those songs not bound to an album is to select them from the song list.. and having to scroll through 7000+ songs to find one really bites..
curiously enough, if there is two or more albums, then i can find the songs without albums.. definately sounds like a bug to me.. the software for the ipod video is only at v1.0, maybe they'll fix this (hopefully other ipods don't have this problem, i have no way of knowing though).
one work around i have tried is to set an empty album for the artist's song that has none, but i mean i don't want to do that for all my non-albumed songs because i'm interested in preserving the timestamp of songs (to know when i got them) and i can't reasonably search for songs that have exactly one album to just set those..

when i go to Music > Artist > All, as you suggested, i see all the albums i have listed. doesn't really relate to my problem with artists with songs in one album, as well as song w/o album set, and the latter not showing up.
but that reminds me, why is it when i go to the All section from a particular artist and they do have more than one album (or even no albums), the order of the songs is in the order they are in the albums.. if i wanted the order it is on albums, i would have selected that album for example.. it would be nice if the songs were in alphabetical order when you're NOT browsing by album, making a particular song easier to find (what if you have thirteen albums for example and u aren't sure which album a song is on, now you have to scroll through a seemingly random ordered list to find one song, alphabetical would be SOOOO helpful!)

Custom genres not saved

Hi,
I decided to replace the default "Classical" Genre by something more specific in my iTunes music collection but find that the changes are not saved in the database for existing titles. A number of new entries added since and assigned to the new custom genres are correct, and all custom genres added are also in the list; it is only with the older titles that the change of genres is not saved but always reset to "Classical" when I close the menu.
Apart from that I would have expected that I can also search the database by genre, but this is not the case.
I consider both of these issues, especially the first one, a bug. Is that the case or am I doing something wrong? I'm using iTunes 10.1 (54).

First thing:
Are you saying that if you modify a song's info and change the Genre it does not accept the change?

Bug in the music browser?

SITUATION:
The ATV2 allows the user to browse by GENRE. The second choice in order narrow down the search will be ARTIST followed by ALBUM. In the ARTIST menu all artists are shown with tracks that match the initial genre choice. The user can either choose to either see all albums of a specific artist or choose "ALL" in order to see all albums of the entire library with just those tracks that match the GENRE choice in the first place.
BUG:
Choosing GENRE = "Score" and ARTIST = "ALL" lists ALL albums of ALL artists. There seems to be a bug in the database selection statement.
FIX:
This choice should list all albums with just those tracks that are labeled as "Score".
It is probably likely that there are other combinations that in the music browser that will have similar bugs. Anyone else with this one?

I just noticed the same thing. It works the "right" way on my 3rd generation iPod, so I see no reason why the Apple TV 2.0 suddenly broke this behavior.
I use playlists a lot, but sometimes I want to narrow down a search to a genre then look at albums. Annoying

An apostrophe in a genre name screws up Apple TV

Another bug I found in the current version of Apple TV has to do with an apostrophe in the genre name.
Let's say I have a genre named - Sam's Favorites, if you scroll to that particular genre, the artwork for what should be in the genre will begin displaying. Perfect. Now go INTO that genre and it has all movies in it.
The issue is the apostrophe. I verified it. Once the apostrophe is gone from the genre name, the movies within it will show correctly.
Please fix Apple.

AppleSauced5 wrote:
Another bug I found in the current version of Apple TV has to do with an apostrophe in the genre name.
this is a known issue and has been widely discussed already.
Please fix Apple.
you are not addressing apple here. this is a user-to-user support forum.
use http://www.apple.com/feedback/appletv.html to direct comments to apple.

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