Get delta once option - DTP process

Hi ,
we are testing the new BI7 system and the DTP process and while checking for the different options in the DTP we came across the Check box option " Get delta once " option while we went through the F1 help but not of any use , please through light on how and when this option is used.
Thanks and Regards
Munin Reddy

check this thread for more info:
Only get delta once- SPS 8
KJ!!!
Message was edited by: KJ (Kamaljeet)

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I have checked some messages and blogs, but could not find any solution for deleted records in source system.
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