Getting organized with Aperture and iPhoto

Hmm, meanwhile it is a bit of a mess....
Imported my iPhoto library some times back into Aperture 1.1 (thus copied not referenced). So everything is in the rolls projects and referenced in folders/albums (the way Aperture imports an iPhoto library). New stuff is imported into Aperture projects, subdivided with libraries inside. So now I have the the same stuff e.g. "castles" as Aperture project and library (with actual pictures in the iPhoto rolls projects). Started to move the pictures out of the iPhoto rolls projects but that's a lot of work. I'm thinking of deleting the whole iPhoto library in Aperture and reimport it now as referenced pictures to get rid of the duplicates but I will loose any editing I did inside Aperture.
Before I start with this tedious task, I like to know, how you deal with the coexistence of Aperture and iPhoto on your system?
Then there is the other way round, using Aperture pictures in iLife. This can now easily be done with the Aperture preview pics, but the bad thing in this concept is, that you have to decide on the resolution of the previews before you actually know for which task you need them in iLife. For a slideshow you only need monitor resolution, for an iMovie 480p project even less, but for a calendar or book in iPhoto probably the full resolution of the master. So be on the save side and do full resolution previews of all pics wasting a lot of hard-disk space? Or do 1600x1200 previews for slideshows and movies and for books manually import full res versions into iPhoto? Or simply not doing previews at all and transferring all pictures with the resolution needed for the task prior to iPhoto? It would be great, if the iApps would treat the Aperture pics like smart objects in Photoshop, thus generating a preview in the resolution they need, but that is wishful thinking.
Again how do you deal with that?
Thanks for you comments.
Peter
Quad G5   Mac OS X (10.4.9)   GT 7800

The only way to use pictures in both is to use referenced files, and point both libraries at it. This will be a completely manual process -- both will point to the same RAW files, and you need to import them into both. iPhoto will create a JPEG version it works with, and Aperture will store its info.
There's work there. It's most typical to just stop using iPhoto when you have Aperture. As for previews, the full-resolution ones do take more space, but give you more flexibility. Still, the JPEG generated on quality 8 from a 10 MB RAW file may be 1-1.5 MB. You may worry about the extra space -- but be aware that iPhoto is creating JPEG versions of EVERY file as well. If you stop using iPhoto your net space if you do full res previews will be some sort of savings overall.

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    Regards
    TD
    Message was edited by: Terence Devlin

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