Getting samples to re-trigger mid note

I have long sustained notes (32+ measures) using an EXS24 pad. How do I get the instrument to trigger without having to satrt at the beginning at the note?

How do I get the instrument to trigger without having to satrt at the beginning at the note?
Trigger or re-trigger ?
I think what you are looking for is the loop parameter in the zone settings. For an example, open up an existing instrument that features this (like a choir or a pad)
You will see a loop parameter at the bottom of the zone panel (as long as all the parameters are enabled in 'view')
Click the 'E' button to open the sample in Sample Edit to see the loop points.
When you create this your self, you'll need to select the area to be looped, in sample Edit and do 'Edit->Selection->Loop'
Read more on page 565 of the 'Logic Pro 7 Plugin Reference'
A tip: setting loop points in pads can be tricky, If you don't get the correct point in the subharmonics you can still get a noticeable click or a 'beat' effect.
The trick is to zoom to a level in Sample Edit where you can se the sub-harmonics like in this picture:
http://homepage.mac.com/rocketoink/sub.jpg
Then set the loop points at corresponding peaks in the soundfile (not at zero crossings like one might think would work best.)

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Happy new years guys,
I've recently figured out how to use a 3rd party software (e.g. ableton live) to input midi notes into logic.
so i can set up an ES2 in logic, and use the software (ableton) as the source of midi info. great.
however, when i press the "spacebar" (i.e. play) to kick off my logic project, ableton is not playing as well.
ableton would play synced if logic was opened 1st, and ableton was the re-wire slave. but in re-wire slave mode, ableton has no midi outs !!
so on the 1 hand, i can open ableton 1st, then logic - which would give me the ability to use midi events in ableton to trigger ES2, but then I can't sync the playback of logic + ableton.
on the 2nd hand, i can open logic 1st, then ableton - which would let me press spacebar in logic, and ableton would then run synced as the slave. but this way, ableton has no midi outs, as its runnin in re-wire slave mode !!
what i really want to do is just use ableton as the midi sequencer / trigger, and use logic for everything else (mixing, effects, ES2 synth, ESM etc.)
i just want to use ableton to edit / create my midi info etc.
anybody have suggestions on how I can achieve this?
i appreciate your time / responses. this forum has been a great help for me.
ian

There's a couple of things to try...
If you're only using Ableton as the MIDI sequencer...
See if Ableton has the ability to sync to "MIDI Clock" and MIDI Song Pointer if possible.
Go into Logic's synchronization and enable MIDI Clock Out.
I don't know if the current IAC bus will do ot if you have to crteate a second.
The second way would invlove MTC (Midi Time Code) over a second IAC bus.

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_Logic doesn't play the very start of my audio regions when I start playback_
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I'm having the same problem.
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I can't figure this out and I've wasted 5 hours today trying to correct it....
I have recently noticed that midi input from my padKontrol is being transposed down 1 octave (ie I hit an A2, it appears and sounds in my midi applications as A1). This does not occur with midi data that comes direct from my Axiom 61 keyboard; however, it does happen with another device (MV8000) I have that uses the Axiom's Midi IN interface. I hit a pad on the Mv that is assigned to A2, it shows up as A1 in the Logic transport. In Battery it will trigger the cell assigned to A1 instead of A2.
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Thanks for the response. I know the two pieces of hardware that are impacted pretty well and they have no setting to transpose outbound midi notes in realtime. I bellieve I found the problem to actually be software related, In Logic, somehow I had the middle C setting set to C3. When I switched it to Roland C4, which I think is the default, the notes I hit on my controller and the MV appeared in the transport as they were programmed. As far as Battery goes, I think it may default to midlle C at C3 (I'll have to check), but I set it to transpose midi input up 1 octave.

First Midi Note Delay

Hey All,
I'm having a problem where the first midi note i play is delayed all notes after that are fine,
does anyone have any idea how to fix this,
i am running Logic Pro X on Mavericks,
Thanks

digitaltracks wrote:
I have done some tests,
& the delay is only present after i add an audio track to the session.
Just to be clear.. no plugins anywhere in the project, including the master bus?
If you select a software instrument track and play a few notes/chords before recording on that track you get the 1st note problem? What is your Preferences/Audio "I/O Buffer Size" set at?
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"                                  "     Recording Delay = 0 (this setting should always be zero)
"                                  "    Software Monitoring = Off
Preferences/Audio/General Tab   Track/Mute = Slow Response-CPU Saving)
"                                          "   Sample Accurate Automation = Volume, Pan Sends
"                                          "   Recording File Type = Wave (BWF) or AIFF
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Whenever I am using any of the following plugins:
Waldorf PPG Wave, Waldorf D-Pole or Audio Damage Reverence,
with the respective plugin windows open, I can hit several notes on the Caps Lock keyboard simultaneously and some of them will trigger after the rest.
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When the plugin windows are closed, there is no delay.
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Hey Rob,
I opened up the Activity Monitor, and CPU usage in Logic Express is 35-40% with the plugin window open and between 16-20% with it closed.
That doesn't seem to be it, but your suggestion that the Caps Lock keyboard is probably just not good at handling many notes at once is definitely correct.
I plugged in a MIDI keyboard and the CPU usage is the same, but there is no staggering problem.
Perhaps there is something off with the CPU meter in Logic Express 7, though.
The Audio side registers activity, but the CPU side says nothing, when clearly the Activity Monitor has it right.
Anyway, thank you for answering my question--it is sort of an annoying little problem, but I just won't play fast with Caps Lock, I suppose.
Vince

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http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=99041&p=523387
http://www.logicprohelp.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=517486#p517486
https://discussions.apple.com/message/22796767#22796767
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