Getting Started, Can't find the login process

I have a nice shiny new V11 database and I'm trying to get this running.
I can't seem to get to first base. I've successfully 'enabled' the port as described in the docs.
I have also unlocked the Apex public user and XDB in the hopes of shaking something lose all to no avail.
When I try this url http://myserver:8080/apex/apex_admin, I get a login box asking for a user name and password and nothing seems to work.
I've tried "admin", "Apex", "XDB", "APEX_PUBLIC_USER" and none seem to work and I'm pulling my hair out. I never see an AE screen just a login box.
The install is a vanilla EE 11 install using ASM

Have tried running apxxepwd.sql /apxchpwd.sql and then logging in as admin with the new password?
Regards,
Scott

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